Admin defence on karma system...Follow

It seems no matter what I post on ZAM nowadays somebody will come along and rate me down. Don't get me wrong I understand that it is a right of the community to do this but since I started posting on FFIXV forums, people are arbitrarily rating people’s posts down without reason or any sort of discourse explaining their reasons. I actually pride myself on writing readable and articulate responses on ZAM, try and help people out and when an opinion is asked for, give it with as much diplomacy as I can muster. To get someone come along and get rated down from Excellent to Decent in the space of 5 posts for just either stating an opinion or supporting an OP is getting very tiresome. I've never knocked anyone on ZAM and have always tried to keep things positive. I've always considered us a community and therefore consider my reactions and interactions very carefully before clicking 'send'. If there is an admin out there that can shed some light into what is happening with the karma bombing I would be very interested to know. Put it this way, my karma rating was excellent on 95% of my posts until September of 2010, coincidentally the time CE was released. I remember a light hearted post I made about the music in Thanalan sounding like a song I had heard and getting put into default for this.

I use the Karma system to rate people up and down. If they have made a valuable contribution to a post, give a particularly convincing argument or help out a member of the community I give them a rate up. I try and avoid rating down unless something is especially wrong (i.e. giving incorrect information). As I understand it, the Karma system is there as a tool of trust between members of the community, a seal of approval. When I look down the list on the general forum nearly everything is default or decent and hardly any excellent ratings exist. I used to use this as a guide for which posts I should first read but now, as most posts carry decent or below, it’s very hard to tell. Some really good people out there now have such low ratings. The only people who seem to maintain their Karma rating is the admin and that’s because they are un-rateable!

Please admin do something about this. Either remove the karma system, reset it or start checking on who is doing the karma bombing.

Yours in anticipation of a sub-default,

Edynotb


Edited, Mar 17th 2011 3:44pm by Kaolian Lock Thread: ok, thread done,.

A guru griping about karma? Really?

What next? Joph gonna come in here and complain that he had a few post nuked and it detrimentally affected his post count?

As a former admin, I can tell you that:
1. The methods for seeing if a single person or a group of people are camping someone's karma are rather thorough. However, it generally takes a "hey, I think someone is karma camping me, can you check?" They can't keep an eye on every single poster's karma. It's really easy to tell if it's camping or just general dislike from the entire forum of a single person (kinda rare with gurus).
2. It takes more than one person rating someone down to go from "Excellent to Decent in the space of 5 posts." The likely hood that you have enough people who just plain don't like you enough to do that to your posts' karma is pretty low. However, if you complain about getting rated down, it's like throwing bloody meat into a bunch of sharks. People pounce on posts like that hitting the red arrow so hard that Casey Heynes looks at it and goes, "DAAAAMN." Not that I'm saying you did that. But saying things like, "Yours in anticipation of a sub-default," leads me to believe that you may have.
3. There's a report button. If you think a post or thread of yours or anyone else's for that matter is a recipient of some unfair down-rating, report it. It will bring IMMEDIATE ADMINISTRATIVE ATTENTION to a post. Don't abuse it though. You don't want to make them start going, "OH GOD, NOT THIS GUY AGAIN..."
4. Some people are just ***** and rate people down with high karma for the lulz.

Edited, Mar 15th 2011 5:31pm by Usagi

LOLFFXIV, nuff said.

In the last 6 months, you have 12 1.00 ratings. Period. During the same timeframe you have hundreds upon hundreds of 6.0 ratings. In your specific account case I see no problems at all. If you would like me to review a specific post or thread, I'd be happy to do so.

Administrator Kaolian

The 1.0 ratings are Sub-default (Or Default, I can't remember), 6.0 ratings are Excellent.

Edited, Mar 16th 2011 3:24am by Kirby

Good to know, thanks.

It would be fun if we could see all rates, and who, but only on the first of every month. That way you could prepare for the popcorn moments in advance.

A few years back, they invented this thing called skin. Try looking into it.