Let's talk about BijouFollow

It is comparable to self-flagellation

I drunk call my friends while reviewing my appointment calendar in WoW.

You live in NJ, just find a new one on the back of a truck.

I wasn't impressed with the brianjweis persona. I'll give this one a chance on the theory that a new name = a new leaf.

huh?


No worries I'll never leave FFXI for WoW, even if I had a super ZOMG PC.

WoW is greater cuzs I can hitz stuff harder and be more 1337 zomg who wants to do a kegger later! w00000 h000000000

Some people do once they try it, mainly because they have grown really tired of farming or other issues in FFXI. Wife loved WoW for a time, but then she hit the same wall I did: The eternal quest grind of DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

Although I always suggest that anyone who enjoys BST at least try WoW's Hunter class once. Part of me wishes they had handled BST like that in some ways. In others, I think BST trumps WoW's Hunter.

Mainly asked because if you can stick even a cheap video card in the system, you can give the 14-day trial a whirl.

Edited, May 2nd 2008 9:42am by Pawkeshup

I was actually talking about the actual playability difference between Hunter and BST. Stats wasn't part of the equation.


I hated BST, but Hunter is loads more fun.

When he went by Brianjweis, he was like the Clark Kent of the OOT. Now that he is Bijou, he is like Clark Kent in his underwear.

But all in all, ok with me.

Leveling in WoW is much easier. I can't comment on anything level 70 as I'm not there. And I agree with you on the demographics. It just seems like it is because there are 8 million people playing it and therefore, you're going to hear the morans a lot more often as there's so many more of them.

For point one Allegory, I'd love to debate you on that. I seriously think that RDM or DNC could very easily take down some of WoW's classes. However, I think we'd need to do that in another thread or another forum.

As for whether or not WoW is easier, sorry, WoW is easier. It's designed that way. Death is just a corpse run away from eliminating the need for a raise. Stats are all clearly defined and easily visible, with little to no hidden mechanics. Earning money does not depend on other players, but is instead provided to the player. Crafting can be capped with little to no effort aside from farming materials. I have never hit end game bosses, however they appear to be the only truly unforgiving section of the game. The rest is a cakewalk.

FFXI on the other hand nearly mandates group involvement just to level. While some jobs can solo, most require some form of support to survive. Unlocking your subjob, obtaining some advanced jobs, increasing your rank, and unlocking your upper levels all require the help of friends. The game is harder in the sense that no character and few classes are islands unto themselves. Only RDM, BST, NIN, and DNC are truly effectively able to solo most of their needs. And of those, one requires help to even unlock the job, and the other two require that unlocked job to reach their full potential as a soloist.

And now I'm ducking out of this before people begin slagging us both for discussing games in OOT!

No, no no no, for ***** sake no, this does not need to be debated, ever.

I think it should be! I think my DNC/NIN at 75 could turn a Warrior to mince meat.

Although DNC/NIN versus a Druid would be hellacious, I think the Druid class is just too strong and would crush me.

But the real debate would be RDM/NIN versus Shaman....

You're right about this. I never thought about it. But a wipe in a pick up group in an instance is almost a given. Even with a strong raiding group its bound to happen most of the time. I mean yeah, a WoW DPS class will do 7k damage, but your talking about a boss mob with over a million hit points.

I have a friend that plays a self-server kinda thing, he can hack his characters on his own little server.


He play against illidan with godly amounts of dodge, and hitting illidan for over 50k damage (Point: This is impossible in actual wow) it still took him half an hour to kill illidian.

Yeah characters have more hit points, but you get hit for a hell of a lot more too.


Where hunter > BST imo is that a hunters pet is the equivalent of a full-flegged FFXI WAR. And the Hunter can heal that pet. I mean I rarely pull hate off my pet in WoW.

Even if you matched stats, a FFXI BST would never be able to beat a WoW Hunter. Hunters pets (beast master spec anyway) do a hell of a lot more than any BST pet.

Same with mage or warlock VS Black Mage.

Paladin would be about even I think. The only edge wow pally has is holy shield thanks to proc tree, but because of that, the wow pally could kite the ffxi pally around :P

Warlock > Summoner, BST, or PUP hands f*cking down.

I can't comment on dancer or the other new job since I quit before their release.

NIN would probably give Warrior (WoW) a run for its money though.

Preist > White mage

Holy Pally > White Mage

Priest > Red Mage

Druid > Just about every single FFXI job. (To clarify, Dire Bear form would destroy any FFXI Job)