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#1 Sep 30 2010 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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I'm ordering a PC from DinoPC, and unfortunatly, I have no idea whether various parts can even work together, I would assume the website wouldnt offer me parts if they didnt work, but you never know... I also dont know, how I should pick my cooling system or power supply.

I'm looking to use it for FFXIV, and FFXI (maybe - I can just about use this laptop for XI), as well as general day-to-day use for browsing, office applications, and other games (TF2, GTA4, other less graphically intense games come to mind).

I'm going to list what options Im given for various parts, and hopefully you guys can help me decide, while staying in my budget of about £700 ($1000)

Listing parts, what I've "Picked" (What looked good to me as a newb, but might be terrible) will be marked with an *
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Intell P55 Crossfire Chipset

CPU
Intel® Core i3 530 (£71 cheaper)
Intel® Core i3 540 (£55 cheaper)
Intel Core i5 650 (£4 cheaper)
NEW! Intel Core i5 760 *
Intel Core i5 661 (add £15)
NEW! Intel Core i7 870 (add £80)

Cooling
Coolermaster Hyper TX3 *
NEW! Thermaltake Frio (add £20)
Corsair H50 Hydro Series CPU Cooler (Add £55)
NEW! Corsair H70 Water Cooler (Add £70)

Memory - I had picked 4GB DDR3 1333mhz (2x 2GB), but had the option to get more memory, or upgrade slightly to 4.0GB Corsair DDR3 1600mhz DHX CL9 (2x 2GB). Is this enough? (£30 to upgrade to Corsair)

Hard disk - 1TB harddrive 1TB I'd want, for game installs, music files etc.

optical drive - 22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA Lightscribe

Graphics Card
ATI Radeon HD 4550 512MB (£96 cheaper)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 210 512MB (£95 cheaper)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1GB (£73 cheaper)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 240 1GB (£67 cheaper)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB (£37 cheaper)
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB *
NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB (add £48)
2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB (add £51)
ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB (add £97)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1,280MB (Anything further down is adding £123 and increases until it hits £883 for final one, you would need to really sell anything after this for me to want it that badly)
2 x ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB
NEW! 2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1,536MB
NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 AMP Overclocked
2 x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1,280MB
ATI Radeon HD 5970 2GB
2 x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB
2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1,536MB
2 x ATI Radeon HD 5970 2GB

Onboard sound - to lower costs

Wireless 802.11G PCI card

Cases
Piano Black ATX -£105
Xigmatek Asgard -£93
Antec Three Hundred -£75
Thermaltake Element S 2x23cm -£37
Antec Nine Hundred Two -£27
Antec Twelve Hundred * (it's an extra £105 from the "bog standard" one, so I could change it)
NEW! Antec DF-85 Dark Fleet +£10
Coolermaster Cosmos +29
Corsair Obsidian 800D +94

PSU
500W PSW Basic unit
400W Corsair CX4000W +£27
700W EZCool Tornado +£30
NEW! 550W Thermaltake Modular +44
450W Corsair HX +£50
700W OCZ +£58
550W Corsair VX +£63
650W Corsair TX Ultra-Quiet +£72
NEW! 775W Thermaltake Modular +£81
750W Corsair TX +£92
850W Corsair TX +103
950W Corsair TX +£122
1000W Antec Truepower Quattro Modular +133
1000W Corsair HX Ultra Quiet +£181

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Total: £747 (£47 over budget, but it's not a huge issue really...)

Any tips, advice, pointing out where I've picked trash for parts... that would be wonderful. I could probably piece together a PC out of parts, given the parts, but left to my own devices I'd order things that quite simply do not work together.
#2 Oct 01 2010 at 5:08 AM Rating: Good
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Don't get no-name memoery IMO, too risky. Corsair are good quality.

No specs for hdd?

Did you select a power supply you wanted?

Seems a little overpriced to me.

I can see if I can put together a similar rig on ebuyer, but then you would need to set it all up yourself, which if you don't have experience could be slightly annoying. But I just bought a brand new pc like that off ebuyer. Doing memory test right now, seems nice.

An i5 760 is a good choice. 5770 is a good price/performance card. But again, no brand names etc. A little more specifics would be nice.
#3 Oct 01 2010 at 6:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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The upgraded RAM would be more for overclocking than anything else. If you don't plan to do that, then it's not a big deal - it's a relatively safe assumption that they'll put working RAM in the system.

If you plan to be gaming a fair amount, and have (or may get) a 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 monitor, then springing for the HD5850 may be a good move. Honestly, were it me, I would drop the case back to the Antec 300 to nearly offset the cost of the video card upgrade. Unless you plan to take advantage of the extra size/fans/etc in the 1200.

I'd also consider upgrading to a brand-name PSU of 650W or more, particularly if you upgrade the video card. If you stick with the 5770, then the 500W base should be sufficient and you can always upgrade it later if/when it fails or you upgrade your video card.
#4 Oct 08 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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CPU - i760 seems good enough imo

RAM - 4GB 1333 MHz is ok. The 1600MHz is more for the overclocking, bleeding edge crowd.

HDD - 1TB is good enough

Optical drive - 'ok'

Graphics - 5770 ATI is a good bang-for-the-buck card but I'd spend extra for the 5850 ATI as this card will allow you to play most of 2010 games at high settings with 2-4x AA on a 1920x1200 resolution.

Sound - ok

Wireless - Unless you really need a wireless card, I do not recommend you pay extra for it.

Case - the cheaper the better unless you want to overclock the system. IMO, the expensive case is only worth for cooling and space rather than 'looks'. You could just save 100 here and use it for the video card. I have the case you picked and it's *huge* but it only cost me half of what you are paying.

PSU - this is where it gets tricky imo. A stable system above would need something close to 500W of a decent brand name PSU. I think the Thermaltake Modular PSU seems ok but I personally would trust Corsair PSU more. Pick what you can afford, imo.

Overall, I think 750 GBP (close to 1200USD) for a system like this is overpriced. With that much money, you could get a similar system but with an i7 930 CPU, 6GB of good brand RAM and a Corsair 600W PSU.
#5 Oct 08 2010 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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I'm confused, what have you picked for your motherboard? I can't seem to find that unless I missed it somewhere. While most of the stuff you listed will work with a lot of motherboards you need to make sure you pick one that supports your processor at least.
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