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#1 Apr 12 2007 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/03/28/14OPcurve_1.html

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Content in lockdown
An unbreakable link between media and its delivery end point is near

By Tom Yager
March 28, 2007

I’m increasingly aghast at the erosion of the traditional freedom we’ve enjoyed to do whatever we please with our personal computers -- but intrigued by the science behind it.

My latest revelation came during a recent visit to AMD for a day of briefings, mostly about the Barcelona quad-core Opteron and the Torrenza direct-connect coprocessor interface. During that visit, I got the briefest of updates on ATI’s new GPU (graphics processing unit) technology. It will ship with software that plays movies on Blu-ray discs. The AMD rep spelled it out in words that would have been undiplomatic coming from me: He said that the new chips will “block unauthorized access to the frame buffer.” In short, that means an unauthorized party can’t save the contents of the display to a file on disk unless the content owner approves it.

There is a short list of parties who will be unauthorized to access your frame buffer: You. There is a long list of parties who are authorized to access your frame buffer, and that list includes Microsoft, Apple, AMD, Intel, ATI, NVidia, Sony Pictures, Paramount, HBO, CBS, Macrovision, and all other content owners and enablers that want your machine to themselves whenever you’re watching, listening to, reading, or shooting monsters with their products.

Video, audio, and software will all drive a similar road, that being a single, unmodifiable path from the original encoded, licensed source to rendering, and on to delivery (display, headphones, portable device, printer, or memory for execution of software). This bit of progress seems to have little relevance to IT until you expand the meaning of the word “content” to encompass that which you create that is consumed by human eyes and ears.

As people working the IT side of business, academia, and government, we know all too well that personal and customer information, trade secrets, and other varieties of confidential data can be intercepted using tricks similar to those that are used to swipe movies and music. IT content needs that direct path from source media to delivery, too, so that possession of encoded media -- say, a Blu-ray disc -- is critical to viewing, listening, or executing.

For example, right now there is no unbreakable way to arrange that a PDF or other sort of viewable document can’t be copied or at least stored as a snapshot of the display. The audio portion of a classified presentation can be recorded as easily as hooking an analog or digital recorder into the headphone output. HTML would be a much more viable means of rendering rich content if it could be protected. Rich document and multimedia rendering engines would know if they were talking to delivery devices that were specifically matched with physically secure equipment. If a renderer couldn’t verify that a display or headset that it trusts was the sole source of delivery, nothing would appear or be heard.

It’s easy to write off entertainment content owners and distributors as a money-grubbing cartel; for the most part, they are. But the technical work they do to protect what they own matters, even that work which we find distasteful given needless extremes of use such as pay-per-single-view. They’ve got the money to drive the science of data and content protection. If they perfect that unbreakable link between the media and the delivery end point, if there’s never another DVD image splattered all over the Internet, then IT will be able to make a promise that, to date, it couldn’t: Nobody can view or copy your data without authorization.
#2 Apr 12 2007 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Wait, is it the GPU or CPU that is doing this?
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#3 Apr 12 2007 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default
Find the ******* Tech Forums.
#4 Apr 12 2007 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
Sogoro wrote:
Wait, is it the GPU or CPU that is doing this?


its BOTH.
#5 Apr 12 2007 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Find the @#%^ing Tech Forums.



Kaelesh, we both know that no one uses those, or the Multi Game forums.

Ever.
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#6 Apr 12 2007 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Singdall wrote:
Sogoro wrote:
Wait, is it the GPU or CPU that is doing this?


its BOTH.
Looks like I'm switching to Nvidia for the PC I'm building. I was going to go with an ATI X1950XTX.

Seriously, companies need to stop creating this stupid software that customers don't want in their PC.

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#7 Apr 12 2007 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Find the @#%^ing Tech Forums.



Kaelesh, we both know that no one uses those, or the Multi Game forums.

Ever.


Because no one cares, so why post it here?
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#8 Apr 12 2007 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Overlord Uglysasquatch wrote:
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Find the @#%^ing Tech Forums.



Kaelesh, we both know that no one uses those, or the Multi Game forums.

Ever.


Because no one cares, so why post it here?
Because I and the other tech people care?
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#9 Apr 12 2007 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Sogoro wrote:
Overlord Uglysasquatch wrote:
The Glorious Cattattack wrote:
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Find the @#%^ing Tech Forums.



Kaelesh, we both know that no one uses those, or the Multi Game forums.

Ever.


Because no one cares, so why post it here?
Because I and the other tech people care?


Which is why it belongs in the Tech forum. Where the tech people have posts about tech. That's why they created a forum for it. You don't get people posting game crap here because it has another forum, much like this belongs in the tech forum.
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#10 Apr 12 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Overlord Uglysasquatch wrote:
Sogoro wrote:
Overlord Uglysasquatch wrote:
The Glorious Cattattack wrote:
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Find the @#%^ing Tech Forums.



Kaelesh, we both know that no one uses those, or the Multi Game forums.

Ever.


Because no one cares, so why post it here?
Because I and the other tech people care?


Which is why it belongs in the Tech forum. Where the tech people have posts about tech. That's why they created a forum for it. You don't get people posting game crap here because it has another forum, much like this belongs in the tech forum.
The tech forum is for people who are having tech issues...how many times does it have to be said?

Tech Support Forum: Use this forum for asking other visitors for computer-related technical help. (Otherwise known as the "Help me Kaolian" forum). Remember, this forum is multi-game, so please specify the game you are asking about.

Edit:

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 12:16pm by Sogoro
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#11 Apr 12 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
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Fine, I'll just rate accordingly then. You guys wanna keep it here, that's your pergoative, as is my rating it how I see fit.
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#12 Apr 12 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
Sogoro wrote:
The tech forum is for people who are having tech issues...how many times does it have to be said?

Tech Support Forum: Use this forum for asking other visitors for computer-related technical help. (Otherwise known as the "Help me Kaolian" forum). Remember, this forum is multi-game, so please specify the game you are asking about.


Fine.

Find A ******* Tech Forum.
#13 Apr 12 2007 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Let me illustrate it more...

Out Of Topic: A forum for the Allakhazam community to babble about non game related subjects.

Stop complaining about what Singdall posts. You don't have to read it. I actually like his posts because I like knowing whats going on in the PC world.
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#14 Apr 12 2007 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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There is no Tech forum.

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Fine, I'll just rate accordingly then. You guys wanna keep it here, that's your pergoative, as is my rating it how I see fit.


And I'll counter it. I'm sick of everyones complaining about Singdall. Its ridiculous. And I'm going to classify it as spam and will rate it down.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 12:20pm by Sogoro
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#15 Apr 12 2007 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
Let me try this once more. Perhaps on a more diplomatic approach.

Sing, post in your journal. They people that want to read this kind of drivel can seek it out.

Sogo, buy a PC mag.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 2:22pm by Kaelesh
#16 Apr 12 2007 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaelesh wrote:
Let me try this once more. Perhaps on a more diplomatic approach.

Sing, post in your journal.
Sogo, buy a PC mag.


One: He doesn't have a journal
Two: I like discussing this stuff with Singdall and others.
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#17 Apr 12 2007 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Sogoro wrote:
There is no Tech forum.

Overlord Uglysasquatch wrote:
Fine, I'll just rate accordingly then. You guys wanna keep it here, that's your pergoative, as is my rating it how I see fit.


And I'll counter it. I'm sick of everyones complaining about Singdall. Its ridiculous. And I'm going to classify it as spam and will rate it down.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 12:20pm by Sogoro


Excellent! So we're on the same page then, you agree that its all spam!
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#18 Apr 12 2007 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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One: He doesn't have a journal
Two: I like discussing this stuff with Singdall and others.


I'll offer mine up with no trouble. Either that or the sonofabitch can break a few more boards and pony up the cash and buy premium.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 2:23pm by Kaelesh
#19 Apr 12 2007 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaelesh wrote:
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One: He doesn't have a journal
Two: I like discussing this stuff with Singdall and others.


I'll offer mine up with no trouble. Either that or the sonofabitch can break a few more boards and pony up the cash and buy premium.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 2:23pm by Kaelesh
What do you mean by break a few more boards?
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#20 Apr 12 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
Sogoro wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
Sogoro wrote:
One: He doesn't have a journal
Two: I like discussing this stuff with Singdall and others.


I'll offer mine up with no trouble. Either that or the sonofabitch can break a few more boards and pony up the cash and buy premium.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 2:23pm by Kaelesh
What do you mean by break a few more boards?


This.
#21 Apr 12 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaelesh wrote:
Sogoro wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
Sogoro wrote:
One: He doesn't have a journal
Two: I like discussing this stuff with Singdall and others.


I'll offer mine up with no trouble. Either that or the sonofabitch can break a few more boards and pony up the cash and buy premium.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 2:23pm by Kaelesh
What do you mean by break a few more boards?


This.
oh lmao I thought you meant boards as in these forums. Smiley: laugh

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#22 Apr 12 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
I have to agree with Sogoro on this one. Why should he have to post it somewhere else? I thought it was kind of interesting. It was definitely more interesting than 3 pages of "hav teh buttsecks with me!!!!!111" which is more than common around here.

The OOT has no theme for posts, there isn't even a specific forum for this, and you thusly have nothing to support moving it elsewhere.
#23 Apr 12 2007 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
If you don't like a thread can't you just ignore it?
#24 Apr 12 2007 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tsukinomahou wrote:
I have to agree with Sogoro on this one. Why should he have to post it somewhere else? I thought it was kind of interesting. It was definitely more interesting than 3 pages of "hav teh buttsecks with me!!!!!111" which is more than common around here.

The OOT has no theme for posts, there isn't even a specific forum for this, and you thusly have nothing to support moving it elsewhere.


Well said Tsukinomahou.
However, as someone stated, there is a Tech Forum-thing, but no one ever uses it.

Goooseh wrote:
If you don't like a thread can't you just ignore it?

well.... SOME people...
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#25 Apr 12 2007 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
its ok guys, you can ignore the forum trolls. they are just ignorant and want to stay that way. that is their prerogative.
#26 Apr 12 2007 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
Ugly, I find Singdall's posts informative, and interesting. Which I can't say for the 98% of GTFO and FTFY this board seems to consist of. Rate all you want, so will I.
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