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Some help with my MOBOFollow

#1 Jul 16 2005 at 11:15 PM Rating: Good
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This is a request that I put out on my guild forums and I wanted to put it here too, since I know a lot of you guys are good with hardware. Copy and past follows:

So, we had these huge storms here the past 3 days and even though I use a kicka** surge protector and turn my PC off during storms, my computer got zapped (supposedly through the cable modem, at least according to the Indian tech support guy I talked to). Everything still works except my USB ports. All of the USB ports apparently got fried. I can't print or use my wireless keyboard and mouse, and I had to rewire my cable modem with a RJ-45.

Now, I need to get a new MOBO. Can somebody suggest a decent one that doesn't cost a huge amount (more then 100 bucks is pushing it). The relevant info:

3.2 P4 w/ HTT
1.0 gig DDR2 RAM at 400mHz (2 sticks of 512)
1 HDD
Need at least 3 USBs
MUST have a PCIe slot

I tried looking for something on my own, but all of the numbers/letters started to get really confusing. I think this is the kind of thing that if you don't stay on top of it, it's really hard to make an educated decision without help. So, if any of you hardware gurus out there can throw me a bone, I'd LOVE ya forever. Thanks all.

EDIT: Forgot to include that it's ATX form factor and onboard sound is required. I was also thinking it may be better to just install a new PCI USB adapter, something like this. Any suggestions are more then welcome and I thank you ahead of time.

EDIT #2: Ok, my mobo is Dell proprietary, so I would have to buy a new one from Dell for it to fit without a lot of cutting and rewiring. If I get some positive answers on that PCI USB adapter, I might just go that way.

Edited, Sun Jul 17 10:26:34 2005 by Jiggidyjay
#2 Jul 17 2005 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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I'll search a bit...

Technically you can live without a dell motherboard...

One problem however will be that you will have to do some software reinstalling and such, but I have a linky for you for that...

Most motherboards out there really will have at least 4-6 USB 2.0 slots. I onry realized that my motherboard had 4 isntead of 2, but they were spaced apartaru...

EDIT: OK....anyway details...

To make our lives and yours much simpler, please go to Lavalys and download Everest Home Edition and give us a summary of your old computer.

Other than that, I assume that you have an Socket 775 Intel 540/640 chip probably 540 unless you bought the computer recently...

You have PC3200 DDR2RAM, though you can do much better withthe new PCIe systemage...

You have either a SATA or a PATA hard drive...probably a regular IDE one though...but for safety, I try to find those that have SATA connectarus also...

And, of course, your damned PCIe cards...ugh...

Here is one specimen: GIGABYTE GA-8I915P Duo(REV 1.1)

There aren't really any cheap ones out there since it is PCIe and such...

You should have stuck with a regular older motherboard like me...Plus...your PC3200 DDR2 Ram may as well be regular DDR and cost much less. AGP graphics cards still have greater market share thanPCI graphics cards...and chances are that Dell ripped you off pretty well since they gave you the ********* PCIe motherboard and graphics card and memory they had in store...

Ugh...one more reason not to buy computers from Dell or any other large company for that mattaru...

You could have bloody well done without a PCIe graphics card...why did you opt for it? a motherboard that would work with the same specs for an AGP card can be easily found for $70 and still have better specs than this one...ugh...

This really saddens me.

Edited, Sun Jul 17 12:22:52 2005 by Bagira
#3 Jul 17 2005 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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K, I downloaded Everest and here's the summary:

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)


Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4 540J, 3200 MHz (16 x 200)
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension 8400
Motherboard Chipset Intel Alderwood i925XE
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR2 SDRAM)
BIOS Type Phoenix (10/11/04)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter RADEON X300 Series Secondary (128 MB)
Video Adapter RADEON X300 Series (128 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon X300 (RV370)
Monitor HP D5259A Pavilion M70 (TH00300631)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Intel 82801FB ICH6 - AC'97 Audio Controller [B-1]

Storage:
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Drive ST3160023AS (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA)
Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B (16x/52x DVD-ROM)
Optical Drive PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8631 (DVD+R9:2.4x, DVD+RW:16x/4x, DVD-RW:8x/4x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:40x/24x/40x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
SMART Hard Disks Status Unknown

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 149456 MB (127141 MB free)

Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

Network:
Network Adapter Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller (68.55.59.159)
Modem Intel(R) 537EP V9x DF PCI Modem

Peripherals:
Printer EPSON Stylus CX6600 Series
Printer Fax
Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - USB Universal Host Controller [B-1]
USB2 Controller Intel 82801FB ICH6 - Enhanced USB2 Controller [B-1]


I bought this PC because I thought I was getting a pretty good deal at 950 bucks (with wireless keyboard and mouse, but no monitor). Thanks for the help Bagira. I wanted to build my computer originally, but was kind of blown away by all the choices and trying to figure out what all components were compatible with each other and such.

Edited, Sun Jul 17 13:19:16 2005 by Jiggidyjay
#4 Jul 17 2005 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have practically the same system as you, a couple minor differences. Overall it's been a good PC. Sorry to hear about your USB troubles. I am slightly curious as to why you were using the USB connection instead of the RJ 45 for your internet. How old is your system? If it is still within Dells warranty period, they would ship you a new MOBO.
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#5 Jul 17 2005 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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I can't honestly say why I used the USB connection rather then the RJ45 initially. My understanding from doing some research is that the same problem could of occured if I connected it through the LAN card though (except the LAN card would of gone bad, which isn't as big a deal, and it could've fried the PCI slots too, possibly).

The PC is still under warranty, but they don't cover "natural disasters or acts of God"... unfortunately I slipped and told the tech support guy it had been storming earlier and I'm pretty sure they documented it on my account record. I called the dell parts line and they said they could sell me a new board for 181 bucks... yeah, right. The problem is dell cases and MOBOs are proprietary (no surprise there really), so a normal ATX board won't just slip in. I'd have to cut the case to make it fit and replace the heat shield and heatsink. The other problem is my Windows software is OEM of course and supposedly it won't run on a new MOBO, meaning... new software. I'm not 100% sure how true that is though. I was looking over the link Bagira gave earlier. It looks like it MIGHT have a work around, but I haven't looked at it in detail enough yet.

I may just try the PCI USB card. It's not a perfect solution, but if it doesn't work, I'm out 30 bucks max. If it works, everything's cool. I just need the USB for my printer, keyboard and mouse now, so it doesn't have to be anything highspeed really. I'm going to keep investigating though and see what I can come up with. Damn you Dell, damn you to hell...
#6 Jul 17 2005 at 3:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Too bad you slipped and told him that, but hindsight being what it is. Yea, Dell, Gateway, Compaq, and all the big guys are heavy into that proprietary sh[red][/red]it. 181 bucks for a MOBO isn't really that bad. Good luck trying out that card, hope it works.
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Sedao
#7 Jul 17 2005 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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Just my Smiley: twocents I would get into contact with the surge protector company and have them replace your stuff thats what they there for. I think your system can still get fried even if it's off. Like your monitor is not off unless you hit the power switch it still has power to it to shorten the time it takes come on.


Smiley: bah Just file a claim with the surge protector company. the only thing they can do is say yes or no. Smiley: bangheadLord knows I abuse the hell out of mines. I switch to a ups unit about two years ago and could not be happyer.Smiley: yippee
#8 Jul 17 2005 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Omri, if you read the surge protector wouldn't have prevented this occurance. He fried his USB port from his DSL/Cable modem. Unless he unplugged it, it would've happened no matter how good of a surge protector he had.
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Sedao
#9 Jul 17 2005 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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HMM you didn't have your modem plug up through the surge protector. I have a DSL modem and its plug up to surge protector pluss even the phone line goes in to the surge protector and out to modem. Sorry I just miss understood.
#10 Jul 17 2005 at 7:58 PM Rating: Good
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Surge protectarus are kinda expensive...I've lived without one for 10 years having around 5 computarus at any one time...

That motherboard link I put up should be fine for you. Gigabyte is a respectable company. Everything should work fine for you and it is only $104!

/joy!

Edited, Sun Jul 17 20:58:05 2005 by Bagira

Edited, Sun Jul 17 22:38:56 2005 by Bagira
#11 Jul 17 2005 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
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I'd get a new case while you're at it JiggidyJay...
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