It would be limited to people with dual citizenship since they can't make people stateless.
Also, their reasoning is that this is to "protect democratic state and the rule of law" which is such an insane display of irony that I honestly don't understand how they could say that with a straight face. All this for the handful of terrorists who go to the middle east to fight, like they give a **** if they lose their passport.
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It just sounds like he's a Republican. I mean, it's essentially the way we treat Americans in terrorist organizations. We don't officially strip their citizenship, no, but we don't exactly recognize it either.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Sure, but this is the Netherlands. Our republicans are supposed to be reasonable and not f*cking retarded. Also, it's not like he's just a random politician, he's the guy leading the justice & safety department of the government and the proposal is backed by the vice prime minister.
I couldn't care less. I'd probably be more outraged if they spent my taxes on taking a terrorist to trial just to verify that he is a terrorist.
But I'm from ****-communist Denmark where we all hate people of foreign ethnicities. I read that in a Swedish newspaper.
But I'm from ****-communist Denmark where we all hate people of foreign ethnicities. I read that in a Swedish newspaper.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Taking someone to trial is pretty badly needed if you want to prove he's a terrorist. I'd much rather see money go there than have a team somewhere decide that someone is a terrorist for whatever reason they want and take away his or her citizenship over that.
Sure it'd be great if they only did this to people that are actually terrorists but the whole point of a trial is to make sure that they can prove it. And if they can prove it, why would they need to avoid trials?
Another part of the plan was to keep track of every time any Dutch citizen goes abroad for any reason. Thankfully that got shut down already but these sorts of measurements that affect the privacy and safety of the entire country over a few dozen people it's not going to do anything against is really pissing me off (because what do they care? They're already prepared to die for their cause).
Edited, Aug 30th 2014 4:25pm by Aethien
Sure it'd be great if they only did this to people that are actually terrorists but the whole point of a trial is to make sure that they can prove it. And if they can prove it, why would they need to avoid trials?
Another part of the plan was to keep track of every time any Dutch citizen goes abroad for any reason. Thankfully that got shut down already but these sorts of measurements that affect the privacy and safety of the entire country over a few dozen people it's not going to do anything against is really pissing me off (because what do they care? They're already prepared to die for their cause).
Edited, Aug 30th 2014 4:25pm by Aethien
I can't imagine that it's even feasible to track when Dutch citizens go abroad. I mean, it's not like you're isolated. You're a relatively small nation with a very long border with other, developed nations.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Flights, trains and bus rides would be easy, no idea how they planned to do it with cars.
Aethien wrote:
Taking someone to trial is pretty badly needed if you want to prove he's a terrorist.
When the ****** posts pictures of himself holding sawn-off heads on Facebook, I'm not sure we need a jury to confirm it.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Yeah, because every case is that clear cut and easy.
digg:
You're logged into WoW right now.
You're logged into WoW right now.
I am. Boredom is a terrible, terrible thing.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Dalaran is dead now though. Hell, it was LOW POP when I logged in. And my guild (granted, it was just a massive leveling guild of 491 people) has literally no one else online.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
So I just bought Skyrim. This may end up very bad for me.
idiggory the Fussy wrote:
Dalaran is dead now though. Hell, it was LOW POP when I logged in. And my guild (granted, it was just a massive leveling guild of 491 people) has literally no one else online.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
Dalaran hasn't been connected yet, it probably will soon. Expect a lot more life once that happens.
There is something satisfying about having a game look at your computers hardware and proceed to set all settings to ultra.
Download some mods. Depending on how far you go, they can kick the crap out of a supercomputer.
Already got all the highest rated graphics mods in the steam workshop (and the texture pack DLC), so far my PC isn't impressed.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Yeah, because every case is that clear cut and easy.
Didn't say that, but when the case is that clear-cut, I don't see why we should waste a lot of tax dollars on taking him to court. Take his passport and dump his **** in an inflatable boat somewhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean (because the Atlantic is too close). Let nature deal with him.
But no... let's take him to court, spend years dealing with his appeals, EU-appeals, UN-appeals, etc., and then put him in jail for 10 years at our expense until he gets out on probation after five years and immediately flees the country to join IS and wage holy war on us for being meanies. Makes sense.
Edited, Aug 31st 2014 3:18pm by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
idiggory the Fussy wrote:
Dalaran is dead now though. Hell, it was LOW POP when I logged in. And my guild (granted, it was just a massive leveling guild of 491 people) has literally no one else online.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
Dalaran hasn't been connected yet, it probably will soon. Expect a lot more life once that happens.
That sounds... ominous.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Mazra wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Yeah, because every case is that clear cut and easy.
It's really not that complicated.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Already got all the highest rated graphics mods in the steam workshop (and the texture pack DLC), so far my PC isn't impressed.
The workshop is convenient, but the mods there aren't the best.You want the Skyrim Nexus, where all the mods too big to fit on the Steam workshop are. There also are NSFW mods, if you're into that.
idiggory the Fussy wrote:
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
idiggory the Fussy wrote:
Dalaran is dead now though. Hell, it was LOW POP when I logged in. And my guild (granted, it was just a massive leveling guild of 491 people) has literally no one else online.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
But I don't particularly want to buy a realm transfer. I suppose I should try and remember we're like 2 months out from an expansion.
Dalaran hasn't been connected yet, it probably will soon. Expect a lot more life once that happens.
That sounds... ominous.
It's not as bad as it sounds - it's actually just server mergers. Dalaran hasn't gone through one yet, but those that have went from dead to populated.
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Already got all the highest rated graphics mods in the steam workshop (and the texture pack DLC), so far my PC isn't impressed.
Yeah, the limit is 100MB. That'll work for most mods, but graphics mods in particular tend to be much bigger than that.
Usually the number one contributor to a game's size is actually the textures used in the game.
Usually the number one contributor to a game's size is actually the textures used in the game.
Huh, that's a pretty tiny size limit.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Because if you change the law to skip the trial there it also becomes possible to skip trial in cases that are much less clear.
Why? Is this a blanket law that enables the government to send people off to a desolate place without trial because War on Terror? Or is it just a law that says "You done ****** up. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200."?
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
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