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#5752 May 23 2014 at 4:43 AM Rating: Good
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Is that anything like the metal bands fronted by animals?
#5753 May 23 2014 at 6:25 AM Rating: Good
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I spent a solid half of the second hobbit bored out of my mind. Talk about a movie that could use 1/3rd the amount of action sequences...
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#5754 May 23 2014 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't seen any of the Hobbit movies yet. I downloaded the first but lost interest when I learned it was a trilogy.
#5755 May 23 2014 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've been enjoying them. I wouldn't worry about digg's concern, he doesn't enjoy anything.
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#5756 May 23 2014 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I downloaded the first but lost interest when I learned it was a trilogy.
Well, what would you eliminate from the source material to condense the whole story into a single movie?
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#5757 May 23 2014 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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Doesn't seem to me like there's enough source material to make 3 movies out of to start with.
#5758 May 23 2014 at 10:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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If they can make Star Wars a trilogy, they can stretch anything into 3 movies.
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#5759 May 23 2014 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Doesn't seem to me like there's enough source material to make 3 movies out of to start with.

Three movies is a stretch if you limit yourself to only material directly in the hobbit book (no appendixes etc), but it should take two movies imo.

I think stretching it out allowed them to develop some of the topics and scenes in a way that they couldn't otherwise and pull in really cool content from other Tolkien sources that provide a richer tapestry for the story.
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#5760 May 23 2014 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Could be, I just haven't felt like sitting through 9 hours of movie for the Hobbit.
#5761 May 23 2014 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Me either. I've never been a fan of Tolkien's books.
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#5762 May 23 2014 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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I love the books and the LotR film trilogy, I'm just not really up for 9 hours of the Hobbit.


Still, I figure I will sometime in the future. As long as they don't go and make Silmarillion movies...
#5763 May 23 2014 at 1:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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You know you don't have to watch them all at once right? Smiley: tongue

Edited, May 23rd 2014 2:02pm by Xsarus
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#5764 May 23 2014 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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But then you get stuck somewhere halfway through the story. I don't like unfinished stories!
It really bothered me when I watched LotR as well (in theaters each time so I had to wait a year).
#5765 May 23 2014 at 1:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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hehe. I guess I never felt like I got stuck, because I knew the story and so it just felt like a new way of hearing it.

I think it would be really frustrating if I hadn't read the books though.
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#5766 May 23 2014 at 1:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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I really liked the 48fps cameras. There were some mixed reactions, but I thought it was cool.
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#5767 May 23 2014 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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I know the story, things like that still bother me to no end.
#5768 May 23 2014 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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Hey Fish, is this your car? Smiley: grin
#5769 May 23 2014 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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The bits of the movie that WEREN'T ridiculously long fight scenes I enjoyed well enough. But holy crap, enough is enough.

I love fight scenes as much as the next geek, but jfc I don't want a 3 hour fight scene. And that's pretty much what the movie is. Stupidly extended fight scenes with little plot relevance, now with "Bilbo staring longingly at the ring" scenes.

I went into the first Hobbit with really low expectations and was reasonably happy with it. The fight scenes were still too long/numerous, but it was decent otherwise.

This movie? No. Just... No. I went into it with far lower expectations (only watched it because my dad wanted to see it). And, well, I really wish I hadn't.

Lord of the Rings had a lot of combat, but it was really well-edited. And they actually had to snip content. The Hobbit stretches content to its breaking point, then adds super extended fight scenes.

I mean, Legolas had a ludicrous amount of facetime in this movie, and he's yet to be relevant to the plot in any way. Literally. He probably had more screen time than Thorin, and all of that was just him killing Orcs.
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#5770 May 23 2014 at 4:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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That seems long and I just had a great beer. I loved the fight scenes, and while Legolas was fine, I really liked Tauriel, who was in most of the Legolas scenes and was the real point.

I've pretty much realized that while I think digg seems like a pretty cool guy, and I'd love to buy him a beer* I disagree with him about an awful lot of unimportant things, whether it's movies or what pay to play means, so I'm not going to argue, because I think we probably are both at the point where we know we're being consistent if we disagree Smiley: grin



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#5771 May 23 2014 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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Are you hitting on diggory now?
#5772 May 23 2014 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
Disagreeing on a lot of stuff makes for good conversation as long as everyone stays calm. Doesn't always work though - had one flatmate storm out of the room several times during what we thought was a good natured discussion.

Haven't managed to get to the 2nd Hobbit yet but while I quite liked the first movie I found bits a bit long and unnecessary - such as the dwarves singing an entire song at Bilbo's house while I am still waiting for the plot to get moving. Also, when they are running from the goblins and the bridge collapses into the ravine and they all land at the bottom unhurt seemed a bit silly, unnecessary and unrealistic. I know it is a fantasy movie with magic and stuff, but my mind still requires at least a nod to the laws of physics etc.

And yet the 3 Lord of the Rings movies are pretty close to my favorite movies. The first Hobbit being just OK was a big disappointment.

#5773 May 23 2014 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Are you hitting on diggory now?


I hope so, because I'm hot and bothered.

But the thing about the second hobbit is that the only people I know IRL who liked the second Hobbit are the ones who would never have disliked it. I mean that in the most literal sense possible. It's an even divide between people who would have watched Peter Jackson jack off for two hours and those who just wanted the damn action sequences to be half as long.

And, surprisingly, even some of the people I expected to be in the first category came away from it with the same critique; that pretty much everything that happened in the mountain shouldn't have.

There just is NOT anywhere close to the amount of content here to justify three movies. There just isn't. If you're the sort of person that doesn't care if they pad out the remaining time with needlessly drawn out action sequences, that might not bother you. But it'll bother anyone else.

The combat in Lord of the Rings was there because the writers made the decision specifically to put combat in in lieu of content, because they had way more to work with than they could fit. So the end result was a really well-edited, well-paced, well-written trilogy that was heavy on both combat and content, but moved between the two quite well.

The Hobbit doesn't have anywhere near that level of content to work with, and you can really feel it.
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#5774 May 23 2014 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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that's certainly not my experience, in person or from friends who have watched it.
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#5775 May 23 2014 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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I thought The Two Towers focused too much on the fighting already and that made it by far the weakest of the three LotR movies to me.
#5776 May 24 2014 at 12:53 AM Rating: Good
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i saw the second one was 3 hours and said no

i felt the 1st one was an hour too long easily

the hobbit as a book just doesnt have 9 hours of content

even with added stuff id cap it out at 5-6 hours. enough for 2 long movies or 3 short ones

with 3 short ones being preferable. do to attention span and profit reasons
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