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#2627 Dec 04 2013 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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That does sound interesting, it's still sci-fi though which is a huge drawback for me. Still, worth keeping an eye on.


Watch the videos on their site and see if the style of humor works for you. Because I imagine that would be a far bigger factor than the setting in determining whether or not you enjoy the game.

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I think I'd start on page 3 and go backward. At least through the initial announcements for the factions/races. Then maybe skip to newer videos about the gameplay.

But the original faction/race announcements are earlier releases, and they're probably a good foundation.

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 2:35pm by idiggory
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#2628 Dec 04 2013 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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I've seen it and it's a bit too over the top for me, still it looks interesting and it's better than the game taking itself too seriously.
#2629 Dec 04 2013 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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I've seen it and it's a bit too over the top for me, still it looks interesting and it's better than the game taking itself too seriously.


Yeah, when fantasy MMOs want to be taken seriously, they really need the writing to be spot-on or they start getting funny for all the wrong reasons.

I'd prefer one that just takes the homicidal squirrel angle a little too far.
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#2630 Dec 04 2013 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, definitely. Serious and realistic are words that are just not fit for an MMO as people are going to **** around and stand halfway inside each other and bunny hop everywhere and in general do other stupid ****.
#2631 Dec 04 2013 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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It's also a problem I've been having with a lot of grimdark tropes in books (and, more recently, some quest lines in FFXIV).

Rape, for instance, is particularly problematic. Female lead? Probably gonna get raped. Gay or effeminate guy? Probably gonna get raped. "Evil" character perspective? Very well might rape someone.

Drives me insane. And there are very, very few instances where I've seen it done well. FAR too few for the trope to have any justification for existing.

Add in a bunch of overused tropes that make no attempt to really humanize the content, and it's just bad.

That's actually why I'm really enjoying Patrick Rothfuss. His work seems to be a serious attempt to explore fantasy elements from the perspective of actual human experience.

It's not like "Peasants hate magic, because it's magic and they don't understand, and the Brigands rape villages, and the Mages hate knights because they're simple." etc.
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#2632 Dec 04 2013 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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Hey Diglett! You've ruined Harry Potter.


I'm re-readikg the series and I'm at book 4 now. There's a scene in the forest after the Dark Mark has been cast where some minostry officials interrogate Harry & comoany and then Mr Crouch's elf Winky. It's full of Mr Diggory says and Mr Diggory does this and that and every tile I see the name your avatar pops up in my mind. It's ruining everything!
#2633 Dec 04 2013 at 7:28 PM Rating: Good
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Amos Diggory is a doucher and I resent that. Smiley: mad

Cedric was totally hot though.

Just imagine that my avatar is Mrs. Diggory. It'll make the final scenes less depressing. And explain a lot of Amos' anger.
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#2634 Dec 04 2013 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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I never found Amos to be particularly douchy or at least I can't remember him as such. I also never imagined Cedric as being super handsome even though he is described as such in the book I think, I always imagine him as the kind of super friendly athlete who would be kind of boring if he wasn't a sport star.
#2635 Dec 04 2013 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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My rig is so old there's no drivers for the motherboard that are compatible with Windows 7. Also, I am not coming back to WoW, the thought of dailies alone is enough not to for me. Nevermind the daily heroic that has lost all the fun because people outgear it so badly and pet battles don't interest me in the least (although I think I had 75+ pets, so there's that).


old computer combined with new graphics requirements and the insane amount of ground effects is what killed wow for me as it made impossible to raid.

if your rig is beginning of bc old, you may end up having the same problems.
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#2636 Dec 04 2013 at 10:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
... digg rants about rape for a long time ...


the ****?!?
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#2637 Dec 05 2013 at 1:17 AM Rating: Excellent
I discovered recently that Filch is punting in the 5th book.

Still not sure what to do with that information.
#2638 Dec 05 2013 at 6:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Amos Diggory is a doucher and I resent that. Smiley: mad

Cedric was totally hot though.


Team Edward, go!
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#2639 Dec 05 2013 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
My rig is so old there's no drivers for the motherboard that are compatible with Windows 7. Also, I am not coming back to WoW, the thought of dailies alone is enough not to for me. Nevermind the daily heroic that has lost all the fun because people outgear it so badly and pet battles don't interest me in the least (although I think I had 75+ pets, so there's that).


old computer combined with new graphics requirements and the insane amount of ground effects is what killed wow for me as it made impossible to raid.

if your rig is beginning of bc old, you may end up having the same problems.
Most likely, yeah. So i5 3570 and an Asus R9 280X soon. That should set me up properly for EQNext or whatever I end up playing.

Also, it's a PC originally built on a budget right before the release of the second raid tier in BC.

Edited, Dec 5th 2013 1:53pm by Aethien
#2640 Dec 05 2013 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Team Edward, go!
***** that, Team Baby. It was the only one with the sense to really try to kill Bella.
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#2641 Dec 05 2013 at 10:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like I cool game, I wish you could play it. Smiley: rolleyes
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#2642 Dec 05 2013 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Does that trailer not give you nostalgic feelings? I remember watching it half a dozen times while WoW was downloading patches just fascinated by how cool it was going to be to get to playing the game and then the weeks after that where I did almost nothing but level and run around the world amazed at how cool everything was.
Running around redwood as a low level hunter, running about discovering things and running into whatever the dragon zone above it was called only to run back very very fast when I encountered the first group of ?? level dragons.

My experience with games before that was very limited so everything was completely new to me so I was just constantly amazed at how massive the world was.
#2643 Dec 05 2013 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh it does, it also usually makes me disappointed I can't really play it anymore. The game has changed so much since then that WoW just doesn't feel like WoW anymore. Heck, SWTOR feels more like WoW than WoW does. That's what I think when I go back to the game at least. You get to follow the same story, but you don't get to play the same game anymore. The places you knew are gone, everything you learned is obsolete, most everyone you knew is gone, etc.
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#2644 Dec 05 2013 at 11:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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The last one is the real problem. It's still time for a new game to take over the role of top dog in the MMO world though.
#2645 Dec 05 2013 at 11:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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It feels like the days when everyone played the same MMO have come and gone, much like the days when everyone watched the same couple of T.V. stations. At this point I'll be surprised if there ever is another big MMO that captures that much of the market.
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#2646 Dec 05 2013 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Probably not quite as large as WoW since that single handedly increased the MMO market by a huge amount but I'm guessing that a few big ones will float to the top.
#2647 Dec 05 2013 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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I like WoW for some things, like the Warcraft setting and the open world - not to mention the badass outfits for my Warlock. I like other MMORPGs for other things. SWTOR still holds a place in my heart, despite its flaws, because it provides a much needed break from beating up dragons with swords. And I really, really like how the Pyrotech Mercenary plays... lots of missiles, railguns, blaster shots and flamethrowers. It's basically a Survival Hunter in disguise, but you have so much stuff you can do, without losing effectiveness, that it never gets boring.

Not even sure I want a game that challenges the "WoW model", because honestly... why change something that has been working for almost ten years now? And the "WoW model" didn't even start with WoW. Star Wars: Galaxies had action bars, spell/ability books, guilds, quest hubs, flight paths, and giant open worlds. And I've heard that other games that came before SWG and WoW had similar things in them.

What made WoW the massive game it is, is a combination of availability, marketing, massive content early on and fast end-game expansion. All these new MMO games that try to reinvent the wheel... I'm not buying it. I don't need a drastically different game to enjoy it, I just need a game that pulls me in with the right content and mechanics. I think I'd like Rift if it wasn't so bland to look at. I'd definitely play more SWTOR if it wasn't the most linear, instanced piece of single player turned multiplayer out there. And the engine is terrible. I tried FFXI--whatever it's at, but I definitely did not like how they handled the first 10 levels in that game. I was level 5 before I even got to whack **** with my axe, and then I realized it had a 2.5-second GCD. Just no. Guild Wars 2 had potential, but ArenaNet just dropped everything on the floor when they let go 90% of their development team after release. And I don't like how squishy I feel in that game... it's an MMO with emphasis on "Must play with others, or die horribly late game".

Reminds me of Timeless Isle in WoW. That island can go kiss my ***. Oh, look, a frog with 2 million health. Let me just send my Voidlord and OH MY GOD, WHY I AM DYING?! Oh, the elites have wipe mechanics... how fun! Smiley: rolleyes

Anyway, I'm now item level 502 on my Warlock, and my DPS is picking up. Did 100k in a 5-man heroic earlier today. Was pretty proud, though I haven't been able to replicate it (only reached 98k afterwards). It's funny, because when my item level was 499, I couldn't break 80k DPS. Something is severely messed up with the itemization in the game. Also, I was ganked a couple of times on Timeless Isle by a Warlock with 1 million health (self-buffed only). ElvUI rounds up, but still...
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You get to follow the same story, but you don't get to play the same game anymore. The places you knew are gone, everything you learned is obsolete, most everyone you knew is gone, etc.

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#2649 Dec 05 2013 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
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WoW made some big jumps compared to the MMO's before it, especially in the area of accessability. I'm hoping someone will make the next step up the ladder although I can't say I've got a clue what that step should be.

Wildstar looks cool but maybe too comical to make it big, Everquest looks great if they can deliver on their promises and have more than just player created content and Elder Scrolls online looks destined to be a flop to me with character building like an old school RPG mixed with Diablo 2, I wish the guys who have to try and balance that a lot of luck.

Other than that, there's FFXIV doing it's thing, WoW still around and a bunch of "WoW killers" that have been about as deadly as a butterknife.
#2650 Dec 05 2013 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
Been playing a lot of Guild Wars 2 recently. Apparently I hate myself because I made the decision to shoot for a legendary.

I have to farm a LOT of ****.
#2651 Dec 05 2013 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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Is there actually anything to do at endgame now? Last I checked up on it there was a disastrous lack of entertaining end game content.


Edit: listening to Harry Nilsson makes me happy.

Edited, Dec 6th 2013 2:39am by Aethien
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