Gauging interest?Follow

You got time still. My DK is only 71.85 right now. I probably won't be 90 until some time around October 5 at the earliest.

Yeah I think by the time I can get back on, and you getting to 90 (which I'll need to do as well when I get back) we should be able to figure out what sort of time would be best for all of us since I know we're all busy with life and all lol

So I've been reading AJ for the past half hour, and from what I gather, most DKs are going Unholy for arena.

Basically, I'd spec like this.

Tier 1: Plague Leech on the first tier may be more useful in our setup as it'll let you purge your diseases from a target if they're going to get CCed, but I think Unholy Blight will be more useful for now until we see how the synergies lie.

Tier 2: Purgatory is like a more awesome version of Cheat Death. 'Nuff said. May want to switch to AMZ at some point if we're getting nuked to **** my magic teams, but I think that's what Smoke Bomb will be used for.

Tier 3: Asphyxiate. Holy ****. 1 min Strangulate?! Done.

Tier 4: Death Pact. Holy **** this is WAY more useful than it used to be.

Tier 5: Runic Corruption, I don't know about the mechanics, but all of the DKs are taking it so meh.

Tier 6: Desecrated Ground is one of the best abilities ever in PvP.

Glyphs: IT is definitely required, as it's amazing. Simulacrum is great for Unholy, and DC is pretty sweet and will help, especially if Noc gets in trouble. Minors you can choose, they don't make a difference.

So yeah. There's some room to play, but that's basically what I'd roll with in PvP.

Meh, I guess that means I won't get to have a Blood offspec, because I'm not paying to respec every week. That's ok, though, because I'm fairly terrible as a DK tank.

I do, however, have to learn to play Unholy.

That better Mazra?

Edited, Sep 24th 2012 8:55am by Bigdaddyjug

I'm that irresistible.


Unholy is actually the easiest spec, IMO. You just have to learn how to use your pet effectively. Chains of Ice will be how you apply FF in PvP, and PS will be how you apply BP, same as normal.

Death Coils are your RP dump, but they also provide an added function: every 5 Death Coils allows you to use Dark Transformation on your Ghoul. You also have Sudden Doom, which gives you free Death Coils (no RP cost) every once in a while.

Normally I would say go with Chilblains, but since I'll have Crippling Poison and CoI provides a snare, I think Asphyxiate is much better. You'll likely be chaining Asphyxiate off of my CC or Noc's Hex on a healer, giving us some extra time to burst down a target. Having a one minute cooldown on a 5 sec silence is pretty amazing.

It's true. I've got some time today to start looking up some PvP healer stuff. I currently have ele as an OS, but I usually heal anyway in PvE, so I'll just make my OS a PvP Heals OS. Will post what I find and see what you guys think.

Feyras! When are you coming back to grace us with your awesome self?

lol "For the love of all things good, we KNOW!"

I've been playing with the calc for a heal spec and am a bit torn on what to choose in the 30 tier - http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sy]E| . Windwalk seems pretty good for us when we're stunned and using it with spiritwalk may be good especially if I'm low on health, but then again something like Frozen Power would be good for me to offer more abilities to stop the other player.


Edited, Sep 24th 2012 4:17pm by xNocturnalSunx

Death Pact is pretty much a must for Unholy PvP (since you have a perma-ghoul). Being able to get a few Death Pacts per match is pretty ridiculous since it looks like it may not be affected by things like Wound Poison, MS, etc.

For a resto shaman, I would personally do this (keep in mind I've just played with shamans and seen them played, I've never actually played one).

Tier 1: Nature's Guardian vs Astral Shift is a tough one. Generally you want to avoid any talents that give you a totem with a cooldown, as it's incredibly easy to tab-target to a totem and kill it. Nature's Guardian is useful because it gives you an extra 25% health for 10 secs, allowing you an "oh ****" moment while you heal yourself. The 30 sec cooldown doesn't hurt either.

Tier 2: Earthgrab Totem is absolutely insane. 5 sec root and then automatic application of a 50% snare? It's basically a hunter's Frost Trap. Drop that on a pillar and kite all day.

Tier 3: Earthgrab Totem makes Totemic Restoration a great talent. Reducing your cooldowns of essential totems (Mana Tide especially for Priest match ups) when they're destroyed will help a lot. Totemic Projection is also a possibility, but I like it a lot less as it requires micro-managing your totems. As a shaman healer, your best ability is going to be sitting on a LOS object as much as possible and just kiting scrubs around it, and Projection is more for mobility.

Tier 4: Ancestral Swiftness vs Echo of the Elements is a toss up. I think I'd personally prefer EotE because it's free healing (and can provide burst healing), but without knowing it's proc rate, it's tough to judge. On top of that, it's hard to pass up an insta-heal (especially if you combine that with an Unleashed Element heal).

Tier 5: Ancestral Guidance is basically splash healing that you don't have to think about. Again, can be paired with Ancestral Swiftness and an Unleashed Elements heal for one massive heal and one that's 40% of that, basically allowing you to top two people off.

Tier 6: Unleashed Fury adds to the "oh ****" heals you've got, basically using a small instant heal followed by your biggest heal instant casted at 50% increased healing done. That in turn has 40% of that total splashed onto another target.

It will definitely require some playing around with and experience (along with some personal preference) but this looks pretty solid.

The worst part is that for a healer, what's best in BGs isn't necessarily going to be the best for arena, so you may end up changing a point or two moving between the two.

Luckily Blizzard made changing a point or two exceptionally easy (and cheap), so it shouldn't be a big deal.

Seeing as I've been back for a couple of weeks now and I haven't seen Theo on a single time yet, I'm thinking it's going to be difficult for us to find time when we can all be online.

What time zone are you two in?

I'm central and when I play it's from 7 pm until 11 pm at night (not every night) and every other weekend.

Theo is pacific I believe and I'm eastern. I just saw him online as well, so I think it's doable, just a matter of finding what's easier for you two =)