[Mage] Mages in MoP: Every spec will be viable.Follow

Yeah, the LFD thing is a curse in disguise.

Logged on my Druid, joined a Zul'Aman run where the DPS was struggling to pass me in DPS and Damage Done (I was tanking) and the healer had issues keeping me alive since the moment he went from Holy Light spam to Divine Light, he'd run out of mana. Turns out he was wearing a mix of BOE epics and ilvl 272 greens. We wiped on the second trash gauntlet (the one with the scouts that call in reinforcements) because the healer decided to pull one of the scouts with his weak *** Judgement and when the reinforcements came, they ran right past the group of trash mobs, including two scouts, I was about to pull.

I told him he was a ****** for pulling scouts like that. He told me I was the one who pulled the group. Apparently he turned blind the second he hit that Judgement button, because the reinforcements ran right past the group, pulled them and then went for the healer. Left without bothering with the discussion. DPS was way too low for the healer's mana pool anyway (he ran out of mana every pull about halfway through the fight).

Logged on my Shaman instead and joined another Zul'Aman run, this time as the healer. The tank was a T12 geared Warrior with both the Brewfest stamina trinkets. The Warlock was so busy telling the Warrior what a scrub he was (didn't have issues healing him) that his own DPS never went above 10k. After we wiped when some DPS pulled a patrol and the tank ran to help without letting me know and the Warlock simultaneously pulled a group of mobs because we were taking too long, in his opinion, I just left.

I was ready to snap someone's neck at that point.

It should be required of players to complete 20 dungeons as a tank before they can use the LFD tool on any class.

Seriously, there are few experiences more worthwhile for learning how to function in an MMO.

I don't need to do 20 dungeons as a tank to learn how to play WoW properly. It probably would help a lot of people, but I don't think it'd do much for me besides make me cry.

It's true, but those who CAN learn will finally begin to understand certain key aspects of the tank classes that are important, but so easily hampered by other party members.

I guess hate is no longer an issue in WoW. But crowd positioning, pat management, etc. is still something that's especially difficult for them. They also need to understand the stress of watching your health fall and having to just believe your healer will keep you up while simultaneously managing CDs to make that happen (which includes figuring out when your damage spikes AND healing spikes will occur).

AND THEN they'll understand why people ******** at a tank for something outside his/her control is so infuriating...

I first learned to tank in FFXI, btw. It's fun doing literally EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to hold hate to still lose it and get yelled at. Umm, no. I have 3 abilities that I can spam, plus weapon damage. If you start casting your spell the moment the mob comes into vision, you are going to die. And that is SO NOT MY FAULT.

Honestly, the amount of **** tanks get in the dungeon finder is part of the reason I quit. Sure, I'm not the best tank, but don't shout at me because on my screen last boss in ZG heroic isn't standing in the bubbles, but he's getting the damage reduction debuff. Whenever I healed or dps'd in the dungeon finder, I just sit down, shut up, and do my job as best I can. There's no need to call tanks out constantly when you've got dps blowing everything they have on trash and pulling aggro (this was shortly before the threat hotfix). And then there was the Arcane mages. ABlast is stupid. Like, really stupid. With enough haste and SP it used to hit so hard and so fast that tanks just didn't have a chance.

Without seeing logs or anything, I would assume they had issues trying to keep DPS poor at avoiding avoidable damage alive that caused them to make mistakes on keeping you alive.

Or they simply ****** up.

Or your damage was all in a spike, but I can't say that without seeing logs(or knowing more about the fights and Druids in particular).

Don't believe it.