So, how has your DPS been in 4.0.1?Follow

Mine has been decent enough. Frost was uncompetitive, arcane seems to be working well and haven't tried fire yet. Managed 10-12k dps in ICC10 hc and was usually 3rd (beaten by a lock and feral druid), not that stunning in the grand scheme of things but on a personal level I don't feel that I've got any worse (unlike most hunters I've played with, who seem to be struggling). I think I'm being a little conservative with my mana at the moment and my gearing and gems aren't optimal.

I looked at world of logs after my last raid on the mage and the class seems to be well represented on the top dps boards.

I'm a little surprised to hear that Frost is uncompetetive coming out of the beta.
It's well known that on beta, frost is top dog right now, no one can beat my evil 17K in heroics, let alone other mages.
Curious indeed.

Too bad it is the exact opposite in beta. with how it currently stands as fire you can't go longer than 3 minutes with molten armor turned on.

Yeah, I'm having to Evocate and use Mana Gems/Pots during longer fights, but this is really no different then what I'm used to as far as raiding, especially pre-4.0.1 when I was Arcane.

As far as damage, I went to ICC tonight, and man was I on fire, no pun intended. On the bosses we downed (Sadly only Saurfang and Festergut; Rotface was uh...yeah) I was leading on DPS and overall damage by a very wide margin; I think on Saurfang I did about 9700 DPS, with the closest competition being 7100. Total DPS was around 8.7K, with 7.3K being my closest competitor. I'll take that all day long (at least before Cata comes).

I've yet to raid as Arcane or Frost in this patch, but given what I've seen with Fire...why would I want to?! If it ain't broke...

So are you having to rotate between molten and mage armors? Sort of like arcane does at 85?

I haven't heard any reports that rotating armies as arcane is a good idea. You should really just be sticking to Mage armor so that your burn cycle lasts longer, etc. For fire (note: i'm not in the beta) is that you pretty much have to just use Mage armor (glyphed) to stay afloat. Which I think is pretty poor planning. IMHO they need to redo MoE (so it is based off of final spell cost, not base, for arcane and some other buff to make it not just crit as fire doesn't get many at 85 right now) and or give another form of mana regen for fire.

Alternatively, they could find a way to buff scorch(not necessarily on damage, either) to make scorch cycles a more viable option.

Perhaps a percentage of your total mana based on the number of DoTs currently on your enemy.

I was thinking something like "Improved Scorch" having a chance to reduce the cooldown of Evocate, myself.

ooh, what if mage armor allowed you to evocate while moving!

while that isn't directly a fire-mage thing, I think it would be awesome.

But yeah, maybe Hot Streak consumption reduces the CD on evo by 10 seconds? Although it would be completely imba at the moment, it would balance pretty well with 20% crit chance at 85.

My dps seems to be about 1-3k higher than pre-patch, I guess, something around there. I'm fire and have now reforged all my extra hit into haste. Reforging it all into mastery got me probably a little higher, but it's just a little more enjoyable for me with higher haste, and since I'm staying in the top 5 most of the time, I'll just stick with this for a while (maybe. probably). I'm not really having any more problems with mana than I had before, well, maybe a little, but not enough to whine about it yet. Our frost mage is having fps issues, so he can't keep up with me right now, but when his puter is in shape, he keeps up fine. This is an issue of skill, though, he's the kind of player who will outdps most people as his offspec, and I'm the type who struggles to keep up with my gear's potential.

I am trying to use fireball as my main nuke, but keeping ffb dot x3 up. It's kind of a pita, and I need to set my scorchio to make the sound like I used to have scorch make -before- it drops if I want to keep doing this. But I don't think my dps is much different when I just use ffb as my main nuke and just skip the fireball altogether.

Right now, I'm playing with one of kyth's specs for some more aoe damage on trash (and maybe the beasts and valitrhia this week), but I haven't really gotten the hang of it yet. Kind of throws me for a loop with the reticule for bw. :) Other than that, it's fun, and easy. I think one of the biggest mistakes I keep making is using combustion right as my LB is assploding. I'll have to keep an eye on that. I'm using combustionhelper, but I haven't kept an eye on my LB as well as I should.

I didn't know your mage was still in heroic 5man gear :p

My RL/friendly competition is going fire this next week. He's going to kick. my. ***. :) I look forward to being schooled. :)

I reforged my items for hit, since I am good and above on that for arcane. Dont we need haste, i am only at 600 haste, i would love to reforge more towards mastery, does haste count that much for arcane anymore. with only 600 i am pretty slow but still do good dps, pls let me know. thanks