Maz, I dinged 80 today on my shaman. Got a guildy T10 tank to run me through heroics, it was lulz. Chainrunning heroics wipe-free mere hours after a very long and painful Oculus normal run feels strange. It also feels strange to have to think about what I'm doing in heroics again.
I should play my druid more, too. After I'm finished spending all my raid-free time gearing up that bloody shaman, I suppose.
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Does anyone know where to come across resto druid trinkets? I have yet to loot or see 1 trinket ever. O.o
You won't start to see them until you get close to 60. Even then you probably won't find any good ones for several levels after that.
You mean it isn't always a blur to you?
blur... blur...
I got my head checked, by a jumbo jet. It wasn't easy, but nothing is...
...
Woohoo!
Mazra wrote:
Then you get T10 and everything becomes a blur.
You mean it isn't always a blur to you?
blur... blur...
I got my head checked, by a jumbo jet. It wasn't easy, but nothing is...
...
Woohoo!
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
There are the +stamina/spell penetration trinkets you can buy for Honor (same place as the cloak), but they pretty much just help your health (spell penetration is a pure PvP stat).
There's also a stamina trinket you can get from the Gurubashi Arena in Stranglethorn Vale (there's a battle for a chest every x hours, don't remember the exact times, but on many servers it's just level 80's battling it out there).
Getting an idol will probably take even longer.
There's also a stamina trinket you can get from the Gurubashi Arena in Stranglethorn Vale (there's a battle for a chest every x hours, don't remember the exact times, but on many servers it's just level 80's battling it out there).
Getting an idol will probably take even longer.
Scholar
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Got a pretty basic question.
When it comes to gear, should I go for ones than give ok intel/spirit, or ones that give great intel or spirit.
Like I have pants that give:
+20 Spirit
And other pants that give
+10 Spirit
+10 Intellect
Is one better than the other, or is it preference?
When it comes to gear, should I go for ones than give ok intel/spirit, or ones that give great intel or spirit.
Like I have pants that give:
+20 Spirit
And other pants that give
+10 Spirit
+10 Intellect
Is one better than the other, or is it preference?
It's preference. I believe someone else said that you should prefer Spirit.
I'm not 100% certain on the maths here, but it appears that one spirit gives you roughly twice the mana regeneration one intellect gives you. Intellect can increase your throughput by a tiny bit (making stuff even more complicated) and of course gives you a bigger mana pool, but overall spirit seems to be the better choice for leveling and such.
This is kind of strange as I have two level 80 healers who avoid Spirit like the plague now. My druid is next, though!
I'm not 100% certain on the maths here, but it appears that one spirit gives you roughly twice the mana regeneration one intellect gives you. Intellect can increase your throughput by a tiny bit (making stuff even more complicated) and of course gives you a bigger mana pool, but overall spirit seems to be the better choice for leveling and such.
This is kind of strange as I have two level 80 healers who avoid Spirit like the plague now. My druid is next, though!
Kalivha wrote:
It's preference. I believe someone else said that you should prefer Spirit.
I'm not 100% certain on the maths here, but it appears that one spirit gives you roughly twice the mana regeneration one intellect gives you. Intellect can increase your throughput by a tiny bit (making stuff even more complicated) and of course gives you a bigger mana pool, but overall spirit seems to be the better choice for leveling and such.
This is kind of strange as I have two level 80 healers who avoid Spirit like the plague now. My druid is next, though!
I'm not 100% certain on the maths here, but it appears that one spirit gives you roughly twice the mana regeneration one intellect gives you. Intellect can increase your throughput by a tiny bit (making stuff even more complicated) and of course gives you a bigger mana pool, but overall spirit seems to be the better choice for leveling and such.
This is kind of strange as I have two level 80 healers who avoid Spirit like the plague now. My druid is next, though!
Spirit is better early on until SP starts to get big and you have Replen.
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Horsemouth wrote:
Kalivha wrote:
It's preference. I believe someone else said that you should prefer Spirit.
I'm not 100% certain on the maths here, but it appears that one spirit gives you roughly twice the mana regeneration one intellect gives you. Intellect can increase your throughput by a tiny bit (making stuff even more complicated) and of course gives you a bigger mana pool, but overall spirit seems to be the better choice for leveling and such.
This is kind of strange as I have two level 80 healers who avoid Spirit like the plague now. My druid is next, though!
I'm not 100% certain on the maths here, but it appears that one spirit gives you roughly twice the mana regeneration one intellect gives you. Intellect can increase your throughput by a tiny bit (making stuff even more complicated) and of course gives you a bigger mana pool, but overall spirit seems to be the better choice for leveling and such.
This is kind of strange as I have two level 80 healers who avoid Spirit like the plague now. My druid is next, though!
Spirit is better early on until SP starts to get big and you have Replen.
Yes, mana efficiency until you never run out of mana!
But really, I think it's interesting how different classes/specs have so different stat priorities for the same job.
Like others have said it's complicated and all mathy and stuff. The basic spirit-based regen formula is still this:
ManaRegen(SPI, INT, LEVEL) = (0.001+SPI*BASE_REGEN[LEVEL]*(INT^0.5))*5
If my understanding is correct (which it may not be), with each level having a different base rate of regen (and for the life of me I can't find a WotLK post with the rates!). Like Horse said though, until people start getting replenishment (which you may actually have some classes getting close here in the next 10 levels or so) you can pretty much treat intellect as increasing your initial mana pool, and spirit improving your mana regen. Mana regen can come slowly though, even at 80 I think 1 point of spirit gives me about .37 mp5 or something like that, however we get tend to get a lot of it on gear (so much so we start trying to avoid it).
Once you reach the level cap a lot of the math is much better worked out, and there are programs and spreadsheets that can help you make decisions like this fairly easily, unfortunately there isn't much for people before the level cap, and the math isn't all that simple; for a video game at least.
Spirit will never be a bad option for a druid though. Druids were designed to work around spirit, and do so fairly well at all levels.
Edit:
Hmmm... think of it this way, spirit will give you more mana in the long run, but you need enough of an initial mana pool ( from increasing intellect) to get you to the point spirit is better. Spirit may give you more net mana after 90 seconds, but if you don't have enough initial mana to last that long (i.e. going OOM at 60 seconds), it won't matter. So ya, it's a bit of a balance thing as well... but spirit is awesome...
Edited, Jul 18th 2010 9:58am by someproteinguy
ManaRegen(SPI, INT, LEVEL) = (0.001+SPI*BASE_REGEN[LEVEL]*(INT^0.5))*5
If my understanding is correct (which it may not be), with each level having a different base rate of regen (and for the life of me I can't find a WotLK post with the rates!). Like Horse said though, until people start getting replenishment (which you may actually have some classes getting close here in the next 10 levels or so) you can pretty much treat intellect as increasing your initial mana pool, and spirit improving your mana regen. Mana regen can come slowly though, even at 80 I think 1 point of spirit gives me about .37 mp5 or something like that, however we get tend to get a lot of it on gear (so much so we start trying to avoid it).
Once you reach the level cap a lot of the math is much better worked out, and there are programs and spreadsheets that can help you make decisions like this fairly easily, unfortunately there isn't much for people before the level cap, and the math isn't all that simple; for a video game at least.
Spirit will never be a bad option for a druid though. Druids were designed to work around spirit, and do so fairly well at all levels.
Edit:
Hmmm... think of it this way, spirit will give you more mana in the long run, but you need enough of an initial mana pool ( from increasing intellect) to get you to the point spirit is better. Spirit may give you more net mana after 90 seconds, but if you don't have enough initial mana to last that long (i.e. going OOM at 60 seconds), it won't matter. So ya, it's a bit of a balance thing as well... but spirit is awesome...
Edited, Jul 18th 2010 9:58am by someproteinguy
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Scholar
35 posts
Ok, thanks. Right now I got 2.5k starting Mana (without buffs) and 82 Mana Regen (without buffs / gear that gives MP5). One more thing about spirit xD
If a piece of gear gives:
+1 Spirit
...and a different piece of gear gives:
+1 MP5
Is the one that gives MP5 always better unless the one with spirit is drastically higher? Thats the impression Im getting. Thanks.
If a piece of gear gives:
+1 Spirit
...and a different piece of gear gives:
+1 MP5
Is the one that gives MP5 always better unless the one with spirit is drastically higher? Thats the impression Im getting. Thanks.
1 Mp5 is worth something like 2.5 spirit or so. It depends on your gear and talents etc.
At my current gear level, 10 spirit are 4.5 mp5. That's a 2:1 ratio roughly, and it would look worse if I didn't stack Intellect a bit.
Base regen decreases as the level increases, so it's actually more important at lower levels, even more than the low gear level would suggest.
Base regen decreases as the level increases, so it's actually more important at lower levels, even more than the low gear level would suggest.
One more thing to consider, although it becomes more important with Outland gear and beyond (character level 57 or so) - with the way stats are budgeted on items, an item with one stat (i.e. just INT) will have fewer total stat points than an item with two (i.e. INT and SPI). So it's rarely a straight comparison.
Scholar
35 posts
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Maiev&cn=Lavathing
Ding'd 42 last night and got my epic mount. ;D
Am I doing the right stuff in the Resto tree? I wanna make sure I'm not choosing any garbage talents.
Ding'd 42 last night and got my epic mount. ;D
Am I doing the right stuff in the Resto tree? I wanna make sure I'm not choosing any garbage talents.
You can get a second Major Glyph.
I'm personally running with Rejuvenation and Regrowth glyph-wise at the moment, but I don't think it matters very much.
I'm personally running with Rejuvenation and Regrowth glyph-wise at the moment, but I don't think it matters very much.
Scholar
35 posts
I was looking at the resto druid cataclysm trees, and I think I might cry. >_>
It's certainly a change from the way things were, less room for customization in the trees that's for sure. Quite a bit less thinking about it too, though it's better than it was last build.
Basically I plop down about 34 or 35 points. Then I'm left choosing between talents that either offer damage mitigation, mana efficiency, or weak throughput. At that point I'm kind of playing 'wait-and-see' as to what my needs will be come cata...
*waits patiently*
Basically I plop down about 34 or 35 points. Then I'm left choosing between talents that either offer damage mitigation, mana efficiency, or weak throughput. At that point I'm kind of playing 'wait-and-see' as to what my needs will be come cata...
*waits patiently*
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Scholar
35 posts
Quest on an item again.
Currently I have Whitemane's Chapeau equipped, but I just looted Bad Mojo Mask. My current helm gives me +14 Spirit and Intellect. The Bad Mojo Masks gives me a little less intellect (+12), but no spirit. The upside is that the bad mojo mask gives me +27 Spell Power.
Which would you advise?
Currently I have Whitemane's Chapeau equipped, but I just looted Bad Mojo Mask. My current helm gives me +14 Spirit and Intellect. The Bad Mojo Masks gives me a little less intellect (+12), but no spirit. The upside is that the bad mojo mask gives me +27 Spell Power.
Which would you advise?
Flip a coin, really. I don't remember having issues healing through those levels back when +spell power didn't exist, so it's doable either way. If in doubt, go with the one that makes your character look the silliest. That's the ultimate goal while leveling up. Once you hit Outland, it becomes exponentially easier to achieve this goal.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
You know you've succeeded in Outlands when your gear looks like it's been treated by a graffiti artist on LSD.
I was farming stuff on my hunter the other day. He was running around with this.
Vibrant display of colors doesn't do it justice. Oh well, at least doesn't have skulls on it.
Vibrant display of colors doesn't do it justice. Oh well, at least doesn't have skulls on it.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Scholar
35 posts
Well guys, since I was nearing the lvl 60 vanilla level cap...I bought Burning Crusade! I know I WAYYY late to the party, but I figured I'd let you guys know (since it seems like some of you like watching my progress from uber noob to atleast decent player).
Pretty soon I can be raiding with you guys at lvl 85 =D
Pretty soon I can be raiding with you guys at lvl 85 =D
Scholar
35 posts
Sorry for the double post, but quick question:
Should I try to get the Wildheart Set? It is the first dungeon set for Druids. Or should I just keep using the best for slot items I currently have?
Should I try to get the Wildheart Set? It is the first dungeon set for Druids. Or should I just keep using the best for slot items I currently have?
I wouldn't stress the sets much until you reach the level cap. It can be hard to actually get all the pieces before you outgrow them; though it is great if you can get a set with a helpful bonus.
As for that particular set, it's from an era when Druid gear was pretty poorly itemized. Unfortunately it just isn't going to be worth your time, sorry to say.
As for that particular set, it's from an era when Druid gear was pretty poorly itemized. Unfortunately it just isn't going to be worth your time, sorry to say.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
That set was rubbish even back in vanilla. On the other hand, it looks ok to wear around town - especially if you do the questline to upgrade it all to the Feralheart set :)
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