What do rogues have over hunter?Follow

Now this is purely from a PvE raiding standpoint. One thing I now is that rogue misdirect is better. It gives 10% damage increase, and lasts for quite a bit. Other than that though, what do rogues have that you might say is better than what a hunter can do?

Hunters have range, which means they can switch targets when needed very fast without having to run around. Generally in raids, I see them come out on top on dps unless the fight is a single target tank 'n spank, and I'm a tad envious.

I figure the hunter forum is the best place to ask, because I know if anyone, you'll have those things you've seen that you wish hunters could do. :P Basically I'm just wondering what makes the two classes a little more individual in their niche besides just straight dps clones.

That icky stuff they slather on.

Stop flattering yourself, hunters are **** easy to play.
Volley if 4+ targets > Serpent sting if not up on all 2/3 mobs > Chimera shot (> Kill Shot) > Aimed shot (Multi if 2/3 targets) > steady shot x4.
Add an arcane shot when you're moving and a snake and explosive trap if you can pre-set them and that's it.
You can ignore your pet 9/10 times anyway.

In fact, the hardest part of playing a hunter is stacking your cooldowns and procs right, which is something all dps classes have to do.

I'd have to say Hunters are more complicated, even if not by much.

Rogue Priorities:

Mut
Is HfB up? Then get it up.
Is SnD up? Then get it up.
Do you have 4+ CP? Then use Envenom.
Is TotT up? Then use it.
Use Mutilate.

Combat
Is SnD up? Then get it up.
Have 5 CP? Then Eviserate.
Are CDs up? Then use them (avoiding AR and KS at once, though)
Use Sinister Strike.

They do get more complicated, of course, but these are the basic rotations.

In practice, Mut Rogues are probably the easiest spec to play. You use one ability every minute, another every 30 seconds, another once per battle (if you don't need to drop combat so long that SnD falls) and then alternate using 1 for 3-4 GCDs than another. Oh yeah, and you'll vanish two or three times a battle to get a buff. I can't think of a single spec less complicated. The closes it Arcane Mage, which is still harder, since there's a huge variation in its rotation due to randomness, and you need to learn how to effectively time 4 or 5 CDs.

Combat Rogues are harder than Mut, sure, but still simpler than Hunters I think. Use SnD if it is about to fall, or isn't even up. Other than that, Eviscerate when you have 5 CP, and SS to get there. Use your CDs as they become available, so long as you don't use Adrenaline Rush and Killing Spree at once).

The class makes up for its simplicity by being fast paced. Your GCD is 33% shorter, so you need to hit buttons faster. But it is still easier to get the rotation down than most other classes. That isn't to say there aren't challenging aspects to it, of course, like learning how to stealth/sap/blind effectively, etc. But if we are just looking at a tank and spank boss, I would be more confident as a new Rogue than a new Hunter.

One thing is for sure--playing Kitties definitely doesn't feel like playing a Rogue clone anymore. :P

Lame argument is lame, no class is hard to play because of rotation except for kitty druids.
The only hard part is how you maximize your dps uptime, how you stack your cooldowns and how you follow the tactics of a fight.
Which means that on a fight like say Lady Deathwhisper, hunters are easier to play well than a rogue, on Saurfang rogues are easier to play than hunters.

I think mainly because I have been doing it a lot longer. The main problem with mutilate is HfB makes me angry.

God, I hate dpsing on my druid. I'll stick to tanking and healing thank you.

Rogues have to juggle a lot of the same things that kitties do. Only reason I'd call them easier is because their abilities don't lean as heavily on each other so small screwups don't cause the entire thing to collapse.

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