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#1 Apr 14 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
Now I know that some of the PVP issues are likely going to be addressed for ret and it is only a preview. But really? Holy mastery will cause paladins crits to heal for more. Was the guy responsible for the mastery's out drunk all week or something?
#2 Apr 14 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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Healing is going to be very different in Cata--people will have much higher health pools overall, and healers aren't going to be able to just keep them topped off no problem. For one, each class has: an expensive/fast heal, a slow/huge heal and an average one. You'll need to use the right one for the right job.

Since tanks (and other players) will hopefully be spending very little time at their health caps, overhealing shouldn't be much of an issue. So increased healing from crits would be fine.

Now, the mastery is not interesting at all, and I have a problem with that, but it isn't awful (per se). Still, if they were going to go with a bland +% one I would have rather they had just made it +healing.
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#3REDACTED, Posted: Apr 14 2010 at 10:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The changes to holy sound terrible. I understand their intent for healing. For them to throw out a gem like this
#4 Apr 14 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think the most important thing to note in order to put this in perspective is as follows:Holy paladins can talent into an additional heal that is like a giant Holy Light. It might take three of these big heals (or two crits) to get a tank from death’s door back to 100% health..


In TBC and WotLK crits generally counted towards overhealing, not effective healing. Crit was focused mainly as a regen stat and not so much an "healing throughput" stat. That is going to make a big switch. It will be interesting to see how the talent tree plays out, but for the last two expacs Crit has favoured HL spam, while Mp5 has been regen stat of choice for FoL spam. That will change pretty dramatically, crit will increase for FoL, still be good for HL. How Spirit will factor in will be interesting as well.


I think the biggest thing is the further homogenization of healers in terms of casting mechanics etc. While I can understand the desire to make sure that all mesh together in a 10 man environment, I will say that I am going to miss TBC raiding where we each performed a very specific function and it was only through team work and playing on individual strengths and weaknesses that we overcame obstacles. Wotlk already has seen the homogenization happen to a degree, having a Holy Paladin and Resto Shaman you can see the small cosmetic differences but how they are effectively the same healer with one leaning to resto druid abilities and one leaning to priest. That is going to continue which is what is I suppose.
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#6 Jul 30 2010 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
Its called beta for a reason
#7 Jul 30 2010 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Where is that guy with the awesome signature? Now I have to go find it, hang on...

Edit: There we go. Courtesy of Horsemouth.
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Cataclysm will destroy your class the paladin and make it be terrible. The previews obviously make it seem that way and your worst fears, preconceived notions and speculations based on current mechanics are true. So bunker down and fear. Fear the future, it will be horrendous.


Edited, Jul 31st 2010 1:08am by Mozared
#8 Aug 20 2010 at 1:04 AM Rating: Default
Guess I called it on the first mastery being silly as hell. But now the talent tree for holy is just bad :(. Here's to hoping the don't mess up resto shaman since holy and resto druid are looking really rough right now.
#9 Aug 20 2010 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Mozared wrote:
Where is that guy with the awesome signature? Now I have to go find it, hang on...

Edit: There we go. Courtesy of Horsemouth.
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Cataclysm will destroy your class the paladin and make it be terrible. The previews obviously make it seem that way and your worst fears, preconceived notions and speculations based on current mechanics are true. So bunker down and fear. Fear the future, it will be horrendous.


Edited, Jul 31st 2010 1:08am by Mozared


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#10 Aug 20 2010 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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Horsemouth! How YOU doin'? =D

Anyway, what in god's name is 'so terribly wrong' with the tree? It's actually fairly decent right now.
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