So I'm fast approaching a point where I should be making some set bonus decisions, go 4pc t10 or keep the 2 pc t9? I picked up the t10.0 gloves finally the other night in VoA (10man) and will soon be buying the t10 helm (I think), but the 4 piece t10 bonus looks so 'meh' when comparing to the t9 2 piece.
I also don't quite understand the description, it sounds like it only procs when you have both serpent sting AND wyvern sting applied? I've never used wyvern sting in my rotation, except for some cc now and then.
Armory seems to be borked at the moment, but I am currenty sporting the frost badge t10 shoulders and chest, with t9.0 gloves, and I think it's the 9.5 legs.
Edited, Mar 27th 2010 5:16pm by Xizervexius
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I'm pretty sure that you should go for 4pcT10 once you can (head, shoulders, chest, gloves) and keep 2pcT9 until then.
I've read a nice little article about set bonuses on wow.com a couple of weeks ago...
http://www.wow.com/2010/03/04/scattered-shots-hunter-set-bonuses/
Recap:
* All Hunters: Get four set pieces. The set bonuses are worth going for.
* BM: Go for 4-piece tier 10.
* SV: Set bonuses are very close and can go either 2-piece tier 9 & 10, or full 4-piece tier 10.
* MM ArP: If near the hard cap, go for 4-piece tier 10.
* MM agility: Keep your 2-piece tier 9 until you have at least ilvl 264 tier 10 for the 4-piece.
Enjoy!
http://www.wow.com/2010/03/04/scattered-shots-hunter-set-bonuses/
Recap:
* All Hunters: Get four set pieces. The set bonuses are worth going for.
* BM: Go for 4-piece tier 10.
* SV: Set bonuses are very close and can go either 2-piece tier 9 & 10, or full 4-piece tier 10.
* MM ArP: If near the hard cap, go for 4-piece tier 10.
* MM agility: Keep your 2-piece tier 9 until you have at least ilvl 264 tier 10 for the 4-piece.
Enjoy!
Don't ever trust wow.com.
I read the article, and I noticed the following:
"and letting this DoT crit more than doubles the effectiveness of Serpent Sting."
Not unless you have crit chance of over 75%, and if you do have that then you're definitely wearing 4pcT10.
"It doesn't just depend on your spec, but also on what other gear you currently have. Your playstyle also comes into it"
Playstyle? Seriously... it's dps, you follow an optimal rotation as well as you can.
From all I've read on wow.com, it's mostly pseudo theorycrafting that is more often than not flawed and has too many generalizations.
I read the article, and I noticed the following:
"and letting this DoT crit more than doubles the effectiveness of Serpent Sting."
Not unless you have crit chance of over 75%, and if you do have that then you're definitely wearing 4pcT10.
"It doesn't just depend on your spec, but also on what other gear you currently have. Your playstyle also comes into it"
Playstyle? Seriously... it's dps, you follow an optimal rotation as well as you can.
From all I've read on wow.com, it's mostly pseudo theorycrafting that is more often than not flawed and has too many generalizations.
So when it's confirmed on another site, it's still rubbish?
Source : http://www.stabilizedeffortscope.com/?p=1409
It all sounds very logical to me..
EDIT: Still Fail on quoting... :-s
Edited, Mar 30th 2010 11:01am by dwarfchapke
Quote:
3.3.3 had some obvious changes – a cooldown reduction on the worst ferocity talent in the game, and some minor changes to BM that makes them practically on-par with SV at high ICC25/low ICC25H gear levels. That said, there was some stuff that snuck in under the radar, and so far it’s all good!
First and foremost, a change to Rapid Fire was in the patch notes, but it was worded terribly. It had a lot of Hunters (including me) in a panic – the wording was that “Rapid Fire now correctly triggers the global cooldown.†RF on the GCD? Say it isn’t so! It would nearly invalidate Rapid Fire’s use as a DPS-boosting cooldown altogether!
Luckily, this was merely Blizzard still failing to have good writers for their patch notes (they should hire Jezriyah to do copywriting, imo), and the reality was not at all what we thought – Rapid Fire is now 100% OFF the global cooldown! Previously it didn’t TRIGGER a GCD, but it would be IMPACTED by it. Now, it works just like Silencing, Kill Command, Call of the Wild, and the like – you can activate it mid-GCD with no issues! No more needing to watch your GCD pulse on Quartz to know when to blow your RF/CotW macro!
Secondly, and the biggest thing to me, is that 2p T9 has gotten even better. I’m not quite sure what they changed, but Serpent Sting is now critting for a 200% modifier, and is fully obeying Mortal Shots AND our Relentless Earthsiege Diamonds – it’s actually getting more of a boost from the RED than normal. I did some testing with a T9 helm without a RED in it and removed my off-spec, and found:
0/0/0 talent spec, no RED: 200% crit mod
0/0/0 talent spec, RED: 209% crit mod
5/5 Mortal Shots, no RED: 230% crit mod
5/5 Mortal Shots, RED: 242% crit mod
So what does this mean? It means that the 2p T9 bonus is even more important, and that dropping it for anything short of 4p T10 264, Leggings of Northern Lights, and Nerub’ar Stalker’s Cord is insane. If you’ve got 258 pieces, it means you shouldn’t EVER replace it.
oh and btw fal’inrush is bugged and has 490-something dps on the non-heroic version, in case you weren’t aware
First and foremost, a change to Rapid Fire was in the patch notes, but it was worded terribly. It had a lot of Hunters (including me) in a panic – the wording was that “Rapid Fire now correctly triggers the global cooldown.†RF on the GCD? Say it isn’t so! It would nearly invalidate Rapid Fire’s use as a DPS-boosting cooldown altogether!
Luckily, this was merely Blizzard still failing to have good writers for their patch notes (they should hire Jezriyah to do copywriting, imo), and the reality was not at all what we thought – Rapid Fire is now 100% OFF the global cooldown! Previously it didn’t TRIGGER a GCD, but it would be IMPACTED by it. Now, it works just like Silencing, Kill Command, Call of the Wild, and the like – you can activate it mid-GCD with no issues! No more needing to watch your GCD pulse on Quartz to know when to blow your RF/CotW macro!
Secondly, and the biggest thing to me, is that 2p T9 has gotten even better. I’m not quite sure what they changed, but Serpent Sting is now critting for a 200% modifier, and is fully obeying Mortal Shots AND our Relentless Earthsiege Diamonds – it’s actually getting more of a boost from the RED than normal. I did some testing with a T9 helm without a RED in it and removed my off-spec, and found:
0/0/0 talent spec, no RED: 200% crit mod
0/0/0 talent spec, RED: 209% crit mod
5/5 Mortal Shots, no RED: 230% crit mod
5/5 Mortal Shots, RED: 242% crit mod
So what does this mean? It means that the 2p T9 bonus is even more important, and that dropping it for anything short of 4p T10 264, Leggings of Northern Lights, and Nerub’ar Stalker’s Cord is insane. If you’ve got 258 pieces, it means you shouldn’t EVER replace it.
oh and btw fal’inrush is bugged and has 490-something dps on the non-heroic version, in case you weren’t aware
Source : http://www.stabilizedeffortscope.com/?p=1409
It all sounds very logical to me..
EDIT: Still Fail on quoting... :-s
Edited, Mar 30th 2010 11:01am by dwarfchapke
dwarfchapke wrote:
So when it's confirmed on another site, it's still rubbish?
And what exactly does that confirm? There's no proof, no numbers except for how much damage our crits do.
Assuming that SrS gets that 242% damage on crits, you still need a 70%+ crit chance to double the damage SrS does so the wow.com statement is still dumb.
As for the article you linked now:
"If you’ve got 258 pieces, it means you shouldn’t EVER replace it."
Uh oh, EJ BiS dps: 4pc T10 so this statement is wrong.
You can trust ElitistJerks, you can trust the spreadsheet/femaledwarf and generally you can trust TKAsomething.
Most other sources you want to doublecheck if they say anything peculiar.
As for the two you mentioned, they state obviously wrong facts and wow.com has a bad reputation, the second I've never heard of before.
Both offer decent generalized info which honestly isn't bad, you just shouldn't trust things they say without double checking.
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