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#1 Mar 03 2010 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
Oh hai

Been 80 for 3 weeks now and I love my mage...but I'm like really bad on him, or i'm just really bad..

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&cn=Twobuttondps

See anything I'm doing wrong or could change for spec/gear ? I have like over 400 hit which sucks

I do roughly ~5k dps on 25 man encounters and thats like bottom of the barrel right now

If any bored pro mages could take a quick peek at my stuff that would be nice

TY MAGES


edit: I know I need upgrades, but are my gems/enchants an stuff looking good?
doing more research as of right now!

Edited, Mar 3rd 2010 12:04pm by Smoopie
#2 Mar 03 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
Overall no glaring mistakes in gear/enchants/gems (at least for the color). I like to think that if it is ilvl 232+ I put epic gems in it, but that isn't super important. You definitely need to drop about 200 hit and pick up a good amount of haste.

what rotation/priority system are you using for your spells?



Edited, Mar 3rd 2010 1:23pm by Anobix
#3 Mar 03 2010 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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I just had someone in my daily group right now that didn't know you could spell queue...

You know you can, right?
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#4 Mar 03 2010 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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what rotation/priority system are you using for your spells?


I try to use icy veins,increase damage cooldown and mirror images right at the start
pop my int trinket during this
than I spam AB till the damage increase is done than AM

PoM AB, AB like 6-9 stacks. AM

Use my crit trinket, AB like 7 or so than AM

At some point in longer fights I'll use my 2p bonus for evocation

Than pretty much just like that, keeping my cooldowns used...idk i'm kinda facerolling



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Good I just had someone in my daily group right now that didn't know you could spell queue...

You know you can, right?


details please , I have no clue what this is
#5 Mar 03 2010 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
Smoopie wrote:
Quote:
what rotation/priority system are you using for your spells?


I try to use icy veins,increase damage cooldown and mirror images right at the start
pop my int trinket during this
than I spam AB till the damage increase is done than AM

PoM AB, AB like 6-9 stacks. AM

Use my crit trinket, AB like 7 or so than AM

At some point in longer fights I'll use my 2p bonus for evocation

Than pretty much just like that, keeping my cooldowns used...idk i'm kinda facerolling



Quote:
Good I just had someone in my daily group right now that didn't know you could spell queue...

You know you can, right?


details please , I have no clue what this is


So when are you using missile barrage?

You realize that you basically should be using mbar anytime that it is up, right? There isn't much reason to keep ABing when you already have the proc, especially when you ahve t10 2pc.


Idig is referring to people to 'Q for instances', not 'queue for instances' as it is actually spelled.
#6 Mar 03 2010 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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So when are you using missile barrage?

You realize that you basically should be using mbar anytime that it is up, right? There isn't much reason to keep ABing when you already have the proc, especially when you ahve t10 2pc.


I've been using MB when I need to switch targets, I'll open with it. Or if I'm feeling like my mana is getting low i'll start going to a strict 3 or 4 stack cast..

I always thought the goal of arcane was to cast as many AB without going OOM

I'll have to try a strict rotation and see what kind of improvement I can get

Thanks for the tips
#7 Mar 03 2010 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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You don't want a strict rotation. You want to use your procs when you get them. The goal is to keep up your +12% Haste at all times. That's better DpS than spamming AB (plus, I have no clue how you don't go OOM if all you do is that.

As for spell queuing, I mean, "When do you start casting your next spell?"

What I'm dicsovering more and more people don't know is that you can literally always be casting.

Look at it this way:

[-------]

Say this is a cast bar for a 2-second cast-time ability. After this one, you are going to cast that same ability. Overall, it will take 4 seconds to cast them. However...

[-------]<here>

If you wait until that point to start casting your spell, due to server and interface lag, it will take you longer than 4 seconds to complete those two spells. Maybe something like this:

[-------] [-------]

But, if you hit the button for your second cast before the first one is up (I don't remember how long before it finishes you can start--I just feel it out. One of these days I'll install quartz...)

So, if you do this: (<> represents pressing the button)

[-----<>--]

The result will be:

[-------][-------]

If you cast 60 2 seconds spells without queuing, that can easily lead to a huge drop in DpS. 150 ms latency means that you can lose 7.5% of your potential spells in that fight.

So, always be sure to hit your next spell before the previous is up. And, if you are worried about clipping, put a [nochanneling] tag in macros for your AB.
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#8 Mar 03 2010 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
Smoopie wrote:
Quote:
So when are you using missile barrage?

You realize that you basically should be using mbar anytime that it is up, right? There isn't much reason to keep ABing when you already have the proc, especially when you ahve t10 2pc.


I've been using MB when I need to switch targets, I'll open with it. Or if I'm feeling like my mana is getting low i'll start going to a strict 3 or 4 stack cast..

I always thought the goal of arcane was to cast as many AB without going OOM

I'll have to try a strict rotation and see what kind of improvement I can get

Thanks for the tips



that hasn't been true since tier5 in TBC with the 2pc set bonus.

arcane is about maximizing your dps and mps (mana per second) together. The general idea is ABSpam0234Mbam is the normal 'priority' cutting back on those if necessary, or when you hit 4 stacks if you don't have an mbar proc using AM to get rid of the debuff and start restacking.

The aforementioned code means cast AB until you get a mbar (missile barrage) proc. If you have that at 0, 2,3,4 stacks of arcane blast debuff use it, then start restacking. rinse and repeat.
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