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#1 Mar 01 2010 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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just now our guild warrior asked me a question about a macro he wanted.

i tried to figure a way to set up it up but it doenst work [as i guessed] in any way i try to create it. my knowledgeo f macro's is more limited than i guess :\

he wants to set up a one key spammable macro for abilities with different cooldown lenghts.

namely devastate, shield slam and shockwave on one key. with a priority set up of shockwave>shieldslam>devastate. So whenver the CD is over on one, they get used first, i nthat sort of order

i've exhausted my knowledge ot help him.

can such a macro be made? [i dont actually see this as necessary but dont wish to tell him that]
#2 Mar 02 2010 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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Aside from a very clumsy /castsequence, no, what he's asking for cannot be done with the current macro system. There is one very good addon for what he's asking for though, it's called a brain.

Honestly, part of being a good tank is knowing when to use these abilities. Spamming one-button is dumb.
#3 Mar 03 2010 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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i figured as much [on everything you said] as iam the guild rogue, i dont think he'd take to it kindly if i told him that [people arent happy when people like me who havent experiencde things theyve experienced, actually know better than them about it]

I told him anyway that there isnt a macro and he has to do it with his fingers. Gets the job done.

Edited, Mar 4th 2010 12:10am by Tenjen
#4 Mar 03 2010 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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I would have told him it didn't exist even if it did.

Though I do have a question. If they don't trigger the GCD (the abilities that is), such as with trinkets, will they activate when you hit it even if others are still on CD? I ask because I'm going to make a "Blood Lust" macro for my Mage, putting in Icy Veins, Arcane Power, and his two trinkets.

But, I had planned to have them all on my bars, too, so I could use them when they were off their separate CDs (and wouldn't conflict with Blood Lust). CAN I just have that one macro, and use a CD timer to tell me when they come up? Or do I need to put them on my bars?

(To be fair, some would still remain on my bars, since they have very short CDs and could possibly be used and be up for BL when another ability wouldn't).

I'm assuming no.
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#5 Mar 04 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
Macros work on a first come first serve logical process, stopping on ANY error.

What this usually means is that if you put in two attacks that have cooldowns or invoke the GCD, you'll always only ever trigger the first ability, and never the second; if the abilities are off cooldown, then you'll use the first one and invoke the GCD which prevents the second...if the ability is on cooldown, you'll simply not do anything because the first part of the macro was inaccessible.

So to answer your question, it is kind of possible, but you'll have to be very smart about what order you put the abilities in and make sure that if their timers aren't precisely parallel that you are aware of the potential limitation you'll face if one comes off CD before the other and you want to use it independently of its ally.

For a practical example, I can use Barkskin and Enrage at the same time on my Druid, but can't use Berserk and a potion at the same time.
#6 Mar 05 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Got it, thanks. I'll look into that.
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#7 Mar 05 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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Yep, any ability that does NOT trigger the GCD can be coupled with abilities that do.

Like Bloodrage and Charge on my warrior... or a Troll's Berserking and Rapid Fire. If you're not sure an ability is off the GCD, best thing to do is open up your spell book, click the ability and look at the other spells, are they cooling down? If not, the one you clicked is "off the global".

Also trinkets that don't trigger can be in there as well.

Example:
/cast Sweeping Strikes 
/cast Heroic Strike 
/use 13 
/use 14


When HS is cooling down, it still casts Sweeping and will try the trinkets. When SS is cooling off, it still fires off HS due to SS "passing the cooldown test" and move on to the trinks.

I also find that the more simple you make the macro, the fewer errors you are likely to have. But that's just common knowledge.
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