What drove me to play DK? I'm not sure I've ever been asked that before. Well first I had never played a melee class (pre-bc mainly lock, BC mainly healer, then hunter), and while the other classes of the game all had an energy bar of some sort (rage/mana/energy) here was this new class that had unlimited resources (runes) and had the ability to tank. That coupled with the fact that the death knight was one of my favorite things from Warcraft 2, AND the fact that I'm a lore junkie and DKs are a constant part of lore (though Gul'dan's DKs were different from Arthas').
I just tried a DK on beta and I literally quit logging onto my live account. My guildies thought I quit the game! I hadn't, I was on beta trying every single tree.. dpsing and tanking as all three trees. Leveling to 80, starting a new DK and leveling as a different spec. Trying the different races to find out how much I used which racial and which attacking animation I liked (or didn't like).
I began in beta to know absolutely everything I could about being a death knight, I committed to playing one and never rerolling ever again. At the same time I was a guild officer and raid leader, I had to perform better than the average raider. I needed every ounce of dps, even getting to the point of upgrading my computer so I had less lag. I'm not the best DK out there, I'm probably not the best on my own server (or even in my guild, Goosedog is a BEAST), but I'm going to be the absolute best I can and that means going with the spec that gives me the best results.
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I'm a 50/0/21 DPS DK...I never switched over to 51/0/20 because I honestly just prefer Unholy Blight over DRW, even if it is a DPS loss, to me it means more DPS on everything instead of just high DPS on the fights DRW is available for, which I'm sure most people only use on boss fights. I'm in a mix of T8 and T9 gear, I have no idea what my ArPen is, but last time I looked I was ignoring about 40% of the enemies armor and my DPS is consistantly over 4.5k DPS in my random PuGs. Anyway, Moving on...
I started a DK because I loved the lore and allure of playing a Hero class. My main in TBC was a BM Hunter which I loved, but all of the changes made to Hunter didn't really sit well with me, along with the fact that because I was a raider, I didn't have to upgrade my gear until lvl 75, so I got bored and took up leveling my DK. After I got through the starting zone (which is just awesome, I wish every class had a starting area like this that really gets you into your class, not your race) and chugged my way to 60, I loved being a DK, the playstyle was so refreshing compared to my Hunter, more active, less to manage, I could actually watch the fights instead of my pet and cooldowns. The abilities and lore of the DK was just awesome, having to go to your floating stronghold to train new abilites and runeforge your weapons just added to the coolness factor, I just felt like a badass, which made playing more enjoyable.
This is a game, play what makes paying the 14.99 a month worth it to you. I personally have alt-ism right now, only using my DK to aquire Herilooms for my other toons, but I'm focusing on my Tree/Boomkin Druid right now, but I have one of every class at least to level 10... but my Hunter and DK are 80, Druid is 73.
Death Knights are awesome, play what you like, just read up and be as good as you can, playing is fun, but performing well and blowing other DPS out of the water is more fun, and succesfully tanking Heroics is fulfilling.
I started a DK because I loved the lore and allure of playing a Hero class. My main in TBC was a BM Hunter which I loved, but all of the changes made to Hunter didn't really sit well with me, along with the fact that because I was a raider, I didn't have to upgrade my gear until lvl 75, so I got bored and took up leveling my DK. After I got through the starting zone (which is just awesome, I wish every class had a starting area like this that really gets you into your class, not your race) and chugged my way to 60, I loved being a DK, the playstyle was so refreshing compared to my Hunter, more active, less to manage, I could actually watch the fights instead of my pet and cooldowns. The abilities and lore of the DK was just awesome, having to go to your floating stronghold to train new abilites and runeforge your weapons just added to the coolness factor, I just felt like a badass, which made playing more enjoyable.
This is a game, play what makes paying the 14.99 a month worth it to you. I personally have alt-ism right now, only using my DK to aquire Herilooms for my other toons, but I'm focusing on my Tree/Boomkin Druid right now, but I have one of every class at least to level 10... but my Hunter and DK are 80, Druid is 73.
Death Knights are awesome, play what you like, just read up and be as good as you can, playing is fun, but performing well and blowing other DPS out of the water is more fun, and succesfully tanking Heroics is fulfilling.
I get your reasoning, but I have to disagree. DRW is probably much more DpS on a boss fight, and UB will only be a mediocre DpS increase on trash, since the majority of it is AoE.
Plus, trash just doesn't matter. That would be like me going into the Fire tree on my Arcane Mage to improve Flamestrike instead of going for Icy Veins (I mean, I ONLY use that on boss fights).
Unless a small talent change results in a large AoE DpS buff, altering your spec to be more effective on non-boss fights is, frankly, pointless.
Example: A Boomkin can drop 2 points in a talent it doesn't KILL them to get and boost their AoE damage by 30%. That's worth it.
Going for a (frankly) crappy talent because you will get a more constant effect doesn't matter. Let me put it this way--Morbidity is about .6% DpS for each point in it. That makes that 1 point in UB 1.2% DpS (technically less, but whatever).
I mean, DRW is a FIFTY PERCENT damage increase for 12-18 seconds every 1.5 minutes. That's a really nice CD. There are bosses in the frozen halls instances where you might even use it twice. I would die losing IV on my Mage, and that's only a 20% Haste buff on a much longer CD.
Plus, trash just doesn't matter. That would be like me going into the Fire tree on my Arcane Mage to improve Flamestrike instead of going for Icy Veins (I mean, I ONLY use that on boss fights).
Unless a small talent change results in a large AoE DpS buff, altering your spec to be more effective on non-boss fights is, frankly, pointless.
Example: A Boomkin can drop 2 points in a talent it doesn't KILL them to get and boost their AoE damage by 30%. That's worth it.
Going for a (frankly) crappy talent because you will get a more constant effect doesn't matter. Let me put it this way--Morbidity is about .6% DpS for each point in it. That makes that 1 point in UB 1.2% DpS (technically less, but whatever).
I mean, DRW is a FIFTY PERCENT damage increase for 12-18 seconds every 1.5 minutes. That's a really nice CD. There are bosses in the frozen halls instances where you might even use it twice. I would die losing IV on my Mage, and that's only a 20% Haste buff on a much longer CD.
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Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
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Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Katchii wrote:
This is a game, play what makes paying the 14.99 a month worth it to you.
I see this thrown at me a lot. "hey if you want to pay me 14.99 then you can tell me how to play!" If you're soloing, I really don't care what you do, you can throw every single talent point into one tree, and I won't see it and won't care. However when you are in a group environment (5-man or raid, or heck pvp if you wanna go that route) then it is NOT just YOUR 14.99. In the case of 25 man raids, your performance affects the other 24 people. If you really want to throw money into the mix, our $359.76 heavily outweighs your 14.99 so if you don't give it your all, you can go back to soloing murlocks for silver.
EDIT: I'm not really raging against you specifically, it's more people that try to use the "it's my 14.99 I can do what I want" nonsense.
Edited, Mar 11th 2010 3:50am by Dilbrt
I agree.
The $15/€15 a month only entitles you to do whatever you want (within the policies) in the game, not the guild.
The $15/€15 a month only entitles you to do whatever you want (within the policies) in the game, not the guild.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Sorry for the repetition, but for $14.99 you can do whatever you want with your own character, but as soon as you enter a group environment you are affecting the other players enjoyment and not doing your best isnt acceptable. I can accept playing a sub-optimal spec like Frost DPS because you bring something different to a raid. Playing the spec you enjoy is acceptable, but not playing it as well as possible is not.
It's nitpicking, but I disagree with:
Not doing your best is perfectly acceptable, as long as you realize it might have consequences. Not doing your best might get you kicked out of the group/raid/guild, but it's not like Blizzard will freeze your account indefinitely. From a Guild Master's perspective, not acceptable, but generally, very much so. It's not like I go into heroics and do my very best every time. Sometimes I just faceroll through it, because I can.
That's why I disagree with you, because if I didn't, I'd be creating a paradox by going against my own opinion. Or, well, not so much a paradox as hypocrisy, I guess.
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but as soon as you enter a group environment you are affecting the other players enjoyment and not doing your best isnt acceptable.
Not doing your best is perfectly acceptable, as long as you realize it might have consequences. Not doing your best might get you kicked out of the group/raid/guild, but it's not like Blizzard will freeze your account indefinitely. From a Guild Master's perspective, not acceptable, but generally, very much so. It's not like I go into heroics and do my very best every time. Sometimes I just faceroll through it, because I can.
That's why I disagree with you, because if I didn't, I'd be creating a paradox by going against my own opinion. Or, well, not so much a paradox as hypocrisy, I guess.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
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