I just joined a new guild and I've regeared my mage (Post-Hack). I haven't raided with him yet - just heroics and the occasional trip to Naxx cause a randome PuG was LF Dps...
Here's my issue. A week ago I wasn't even close to hit cap. I had maybe 6%. But I was in heroics and on bosses that didn't have a crazy amount of movement I would pull 3 - 5k DPS. Much of this was because my rotation was AB until about 3000 mana was burned, then Gem, then AB till /oom, then Evocate. *Hey it was a heroic - most fights last about 60 seconds at best...
Despite not being hit capped - my gear was really heavy on haste and crit. Now - I'm hit capped and noticing a significant drop in DPS. Is this because the chance to miss a heroic boss is negligable and my haste/Crit more than made up for it.
I'm currently a little too high over Hit Cap (Due to getting a new piece and needing to replace a Gem or two that was previously a Hit Gem.
So - my question - is this normal? (Tanks experience something similar at Def-Cap. Lower quality tanking gear is very heavy on Defense - to get the to Def cap quickly. Suddenly they will get a new epic piece that is dramagically lower... Thus causing them to need to juggle gear.) Is it the same with mage DPS?
Toon: Fishe - Grizzley Hills (I can never link things here - I have no idea why.)
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Grizzly+Hills&cn=Fishe
is the link, don't know how it can't work for you.
First of all your spec is pretty bad, you would want to do 57/3/11 for the most part, I don't see any reason not to. You picked up icy floes but didn't go deep enough to get icy veins...
You have prismatic cloak (bad talent), picked up arcane stability (rarely needed), and student of the mind isn't that good of a talent and can be dropped down to 1pt. with extra points I like to put it into incanter's absorption, so that if you take damage be it through wards or shields you get an SP buff.
you are about 300 over the hit cap.... (8% after talents + spriest) and that is for raid bosses. the number is reachable through talents for heroic mobs (82 and below)...
your meta gem is awful. CSD, always, no excuses.
your enchant on your bracers is laughable
legs are wrong. enchant should be spellpower/spirit. gems should never ever ever be for +int, if it is yellow it should be reckless, if it is red runed
still enchanted for hit on the gloves
still gemmed for hit on the belt
boots need an enchant, I prefer tuskarr's vitality or icewalker.
your chest should probably be spellpower/spirit and runed and needs to be enchanted (+8/+10 stats)
And the second trinket that you bought with badges is pretty bad, the sundial of the exalted is better, or better yet chain-run regular ToC for the abyssal rune. Also look into the talisman of resurgeance for badges, it is a lot better than that bad one.
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 10:53am by Anobix
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 11:02am by Anobix
is the link, don't know how it can't work for you.
First of all your spec is pretty bad, you would want to do 57/3/11 for the most part, I don't see any reason not to. You picked up icy floes but didn't go deep enough to get icy veins...
You have prismatic cloak (bad talent), picked up arcane stability (rarely needed), and student of the mind isn't that good of a talent and can be dropped down to 1pt. with extra points I like to put it into incanter's absorption, so that if you take damage be it through wards or shields you get an SP buff.
you are about 300 over the hit cap.... (8% after talents + spriest) and that is for raid bosses. the number is reachable through talents for heroic mobs (82 and below)...
your meta gem is awful. CSD, always, no excuses.
your enchant on your bracers is laughable
legs are wrong. enchant should be spellpower/spirit. gems should never ever ever be for +int, if it is yellow it should be reckless, if it is red runed
still enchanted for hit on the gloves
still gemmed for hit on the belt
boots need an enchant, I prefer tuskarr's vitality or icewalker.
your chest should probably be spellpower/spirit and runed and needs to be enchanted (+8/+10 stats)
And the second trinket that you bought with badges is pretty bad, the sundial of the exalted is better, or better yet chain-run regular ToC for the abyssal rune. Also look into the talisman of resurgeance for badges, it is a lot better than that bad one.
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 10:53am by Anobix
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 11:02am by Anobix
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Grizzly+Hills&cn=Fishe
is the link, don't know how it can't work for you.
is the link, don't know how it can't work for you.
Yep - that's me. I link it and it always says broken? TY
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First of all your spec is pretty bad, you would want to do 57/3/11 for the most part, I don't see any reason not to. You picked up icy floes but didn't go deep enough to get icy veins...
You have prismatic cloak (bad talent), picked up arcane stability (rarely needed), and student of the mind isn't that good of a talent and can be dropped down to 1pt. with extra points I like to put it into incanter's absorption, so that if you take damage be it through wards or shields you get an SP buff.
You have prismatic cloak (bad talent), picked up arcane stability (rarely needed), and student of the mind isn't that good of a talent and can be dropped down to 1pt. with extra points I like to put it into incanter's absorption, so that if you take damage be it through wards or shields you get an SP buff.
Kind of know I'd hear about that... Yeah P.Cloak is a bad raid talent. I have it for PuG runs. It makes wipes much more 'Rogue like". Tank Goes down. P.Cloak. Tank asks if everyone is ready - pulls 5 mob's then Laughs and Leaves group - P.Cloak. I agree with you though - I'm going to just copy your spec. (I'll get rid of the Frost Spec)
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you are about 300 over the hit cap.... (8% after talents + spriest) and that is for raid bosses. the number is reachable through talents for heroic mobs (82 and below)...
That's great news. I have a whole other set of Crit and haste and SP - I can drop the hit.
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your meta gem is awful. CSD, always, no excuses.
News to me... Will do.
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your enchant on your bracers is laughable
Yeah - learning to enchant - it was cheap and I never fixed it. Doesn't Spirit work with the Glyph of Molten Armor? I would think that Spirit can't be that bad?
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legs are wrong. enchant should be spellpower/spirit. gems should never ever ever be for +int, if it is yellow it should be reckless, if it is red runed
Will do.
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still enchanted for hit on the gloves
still gemmed for hit on the belt
still gemmed for hit on the belt
*Sort of the reason I posted. I had passed the 17% that I thought I needed. You clarified that... Will do.
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boots need an enchant, I prefer tuskarr's vitality or icewalker.
Icewalker - will do.
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your chest should probably be spellpower/spirit and runed and needs to be enchanted (+8/+10 stats)
Planned on doing the +10 - it's still a relatively new piece to me.
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And the second trinket that you bought with badges is pretty bad, the sundial of the exalted is better, or better yet chain-run regular ToC for the abyssal rune. Also look into the talisman of resurgeance for badges, it is a lot better than that bad one.
Really - I thought the haste would be nice? I'll look into the ones you suggested.
Overall - Thanks for the thorough response!
Yes, feel lucky for Anobix advice, because I always have.
As far as the trinket is concerned, if you have badges, get that, cuz int yeah. Haste, yeah, but int yeah. :) Whatever you can get first.
A tip, though, get and hang on to hit pieces, like necks and rings and such. T10 sheds a ton of hit and you have to make it up. In other words, don't just say "I don't need that cuz it has a ton of hit" because later, you might need it. An example is the neck from flame leviathan. Still using it, with my t10 4pc. Because of my t10 4pc....
<3 Anobix :)
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 11:51am by Trilliandent
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 11:51am by Trilliandent
As far as the trinket is concerned, if you have badges, get that, cuz int yeah. Haste, yeah, but int yeah. :) Whatever you can get first.
A tip, though, get and hang on to hit pieces, like necks and rings and such. T10 sheds a ton of hit and you have to make it up. In other words, don't just say "I don't need that cuz it has a ton of hit" because later, you might need it. An example is the neck from flame leviathan. Still using it, with my t10 4pc. Because of my t10 4pc....
<3 Anobix :)
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 11:51am by Trilliandent
Edited, Feb 19th 2010 11:51am by Trilliandent
I figure for every person who Anobix does the whole "here's what you could do better" thing with, there are 5-10 lurkers who need the same advice. It's really quite the public service (I don't think I ever asked, but I definitely needed to read!).
On Prismatic Cloak - that used to be necessary to get invisibility to work in realistic situations, but you'll find it works fine waiting a couple extra seconds now.
On Prismatic Cloak - that used to be necessary to get invisibility to work in realistic situations, but you'll find it works fine waiting a couple extra seconds now.
Thank you.
I did most of what you advised ($$$ = Limits) and just last night - on my last PuG run of the evening - I hit 7029 DPS.
It was VH... So nothing special, but on the Dog boss the group leader mentioned my DPS. I hadn't reset it for the fight - so it showed like 3.5k for the fight plus the trash packs that proceeded it. So on the next fight (Final boss) i reset the meter. Awesome.
Now I need to work on my Stamina. Ouch my health is low.
I did most of what you advised ($$$ = Limits) and just last night - on my last PuG run of the evening - I hit 7029 DPS.
It was VH... So nothing special, but on the Dog boss the group leader mentioned my DPS. I hadn't reset it for the fight - so it showed like 3.5k for the fight plus the trash packs that proceeded it. So on the next fight (Final boss) i reset the meter. Awesome.
Now I need to work on my Stamina. Ouch my health is low.
well done, glad to see it worked for you. I checked your gear and it looks much much better (kudos for the spec :-))
Not sure how your HP is so low, I think I have about 3k more pre-buffs, but it will just come with more gear, don't worry about enchanting/gemming for it.
Not sure how your HP is so low, I think I have about 3k more pre-buffs, but it will just come with more gear, don't worry about enchanting/gemming for it.
Just an FYI, you don't need to reset the meter each fight if you want to know the data just for it. On the top bar, there's a paper-looking icon. If you click that it will list Overall data, current fight, and then names of the last few mobs (I think this is the first you target per trash pack).
To see your damage on a boss, just switch it to current fight.
To see your damage on a boss, just switch it to current fight.
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