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#1 Feb 03 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
hey im disc and im having a lot of problems healing AoE.
any of you disc priest have any advice? thanks in advance
#2 Feb 03 2010 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Shield everybody.
Cast PoM every time it's off cooldown.
Cast Prayer of Healing. A lot. Inner Focus + Prayer of Healing = win.
Keep Renew rolling as needed.

Or, spec Holy. Smiley: nod


Edit because I said "on cooldown" when I meant "off cooldown." Can't very well go casting something when it's ON cooldown, now can you?

Edited, Feb 3rd 2010 3:43pm by teacake
#3 Feb 03 2010 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
Do what teacake said.

Look at PoH as a way to get everyone's health back up until you can sneak in a refresh on their shields.

If you are 80, be sure you have hotkeyed Divine Hymn, and don't forget to use it in a pinch. Also Hotkey PoH.

You want your PoH to be as fast and powerful as possible. To that end, I present you with the following macro:

#showtooltip Prayer of Healing
/cast [target=player] Power Infusion
/cast Inner Focus
/cast Prayer of Healing

Because the spells don't share a common cooldown, they all fire with one keypress. Since one spell being on cooldown doesn't stop the other from activating, you can press the key repeatedly to do your multiple PoH.

Why would I want to tie these together?
As disc, if I'm casting PoH, the group is probably taking some significant group wide damage. By utilizing PI, IF, and PoH on the single keypress, I get:

- Reduced casting time on multiple PoH by .5 sec each for 15 seconds.
- Reduced mana cost of multiple PoH by 20% for 15 seconds.
- The first PoH mana free with a crit rate increased by 25% (putting the chance to crit and proc bubbles above 50%).
- Even if PI or IF is on cooldown, PoH still activates normally, meaning this is "keybind it and forget it".

It takes a bit of practice to get the hang of healing AOE damage. You may also simply be a bit weak in the spellpower, or dps could be taking too long on a fight like Loken.

Definately pre-shield your 5 man group before combat, and try to keep shields up on all 5 for the duration of combat. When you can't, and it gets ahead of you, PoH, Binding Heal, Divine Hymn if you have it, all can be useful to get you back to a point of shielding. Keep renew on at least the tank. PoM of course. If you have a lot of mana, you can also keep renews up on other party members along with the shields. They will still be ticking when the shield is used up. This isn't something you will want to do all the time, but it's one option when damage is heavy.

A lot of factors determine your success in AOE healing. Just going Holy isn't necessarily going to keep everyone from dieing. Don't underestimate the importance of your ability to shield. It really is your spec defining talent.
#4 Feb 04 2010 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah since I came to Northrend I have really struggled with the AoE healing as Disc. But I am getting better with more practice, knowing when a particular spell is needed. Going crazy with shields, and making sure you have Shadowfiend off cooldown for a bossfight is useful. I also work on the premise that avoidable AoE doesnt need healed. If the DPS has a way to avoid it and arent bothering, then I wont bother to heal it.
#5 Feb 04 2010 at 7:50 AM Rating: Excellent
EbanySalamonderiel wrote:
I also work on the premise that avoidable AoE doesnt need healed. If the DPS has a way to avoid it and arent bothering, then I wont bother to heal it.


I respectfully disagree. I'll shield them, I'll heal them, then I'll yell at them.
#6 Feb 04 2010 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I will shield them at first, but if they are standing in a Poison Cloud for so long that my shield fully absorbs it and they keep taking damage, thats their own fault. Like Nexus, if the DPS has 9 stacks of the debuff on him I am not wasting my mana.
#7 Feb 04 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
Fair enough. When the dps is taking so much of your attention that you endanger the tank, you have to make a choice.
#8 Feb 04 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, bear in mind im talking about levelling with instance appropriate gear here, I am sure when I reach level 80 and get kitted out with welfare epics I will count it as a matter of pride if I can keep the keyboard-turniest of windowlickers alive through anything.
#9 Feb 07 2010 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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The Honorable dadanox wrote:

You want your PoH to be as fast and powerful as possible. To that end, I present you with the following macro:

#showtooltip Prayer of Healing
/cast [target=player] Power Infusion
/cast Inner Focus
/cast Prayer of Healing

Because the spells don't share a common cooldown, they all fire with one keypress. Since one spell being on cooldown doesn't stop the other from activating, you can press the key repeatedly to do your multiple PoH.

Why would I want to tie these together?
As disc, if I'm casting PoH, the group is probably taking some significant group wide damage. By utilizing PI, IF, and PoH on the single keypress, I get:

- Reduced casting time on multiple PoH by .5 sec each for 15 seconds.
- Reduced mana cost of multiple PoH by 20% for 15 seconds.
- The first PoH mana free with a crit rate increased by 25% (putting the chance to crit and proc bubbles above 50%).
- Even if PI or IF is on cooldown, PoH still activates normally, meaning this is "keybind it and forget it".


I'd love to see this macro added to the sticky. I had to search for this post today, and I so despise expending effort. It's a fabulous macro. Just beware of it if you are wanting to save your PI cooldown for something else.
#10 Feb 07 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've been on a macro kick this morning, so I will attempt to further improve this macro! Smiley: grin

I've found that sometimes after wipes or between bosses, I accidentally use a cd while topping the group off- oh noes! I wish that macro only used my cds in combat...

Ta Daaaa!

#showtooltip Prayer of Healing
/cast [combat][target=player] Power Infusion
/cast [combat]Inner Focus
/cast Prayer of Healing
#11 Feb 07 2010 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
Oh, very nice! I already stole your original one so I'll be sure to update it.

Not that it would have helped me on the 4 straight wipes on the last boss in UK the other night. I think I'm too stupid inept to be healer when there will be LOS issues...
#12 Feb 07 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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The Honorable dadanox wrote:
#showtooltip Prayer of Healing
/cast [target=player] Power Infusion
/cast Inner Focus
/cast Prayer of Healing
No, just no.
Never use PI on yourself unless there's nobody to make use out of it.
Mages, warlocks, boomkins, elemental shamans and shadowpriests all get quite a dps boost out of it while personally I very rarely find a haste cooldown all that useful on my priest.
#13 Feb 07 2010 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Depends, really. I wouldn't recommend it, but after I found myself using haste potions on Festergut...

Not that I'd ever macro it to a Prayer of Healing, though. I got more efficient raid-save buttons.
#14 Feb 07 2010 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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On festergut I'd rather use it on the holydin spamming the MT than on myself, gets you much more healing.
#15 Feb 07 2010 at 7:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Never use PI on yourself unless there's nobody to make use out of it.
Mages, warlocks, boomkins, elemental shamans and shadowpriests all get quite a dps boost out of it


F*ck 'em. If the good lord wanted them to have PI, he'd have put it in their talent tree.




Maybe selfishness is why I don't raid.
#16 Feb 07 2010 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
I can see both sides of the argument. Do I really need to boost the meter sniping dps, or perhaps I would personally like the effect of "reducing the mana cost of all spells by 20%. Lasts 15 sec.", on a chain of several PoH costing 48% of base mana each (plus the increased casting speed), this when I am trying to save the entire group from dieing. It is something to ponder.
#17 Feb 23 2010 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
You guys sure cast PoH a lot around here

Anyway I've never found a need to PI myself, I just use borrowed time a lot

If you are talking 5 man, useally shielding everybody and FH and heal spike damage with penence

If its a raid just pw:s everybody and pom on cd, thats why you are there
#18 Feb 23 2010 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
I don't disagree at all. I'm amazed at the impact of shield spamming on a 10 man. Certainly PoH isn't my most used spell. However, it is there, and it is useful on fights that do a lot of aoe damage.
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