DK starting quests need some maintenanceFollow

I just had a somewhat comical and annoying time making a new death knight. Now, let me start by saying I think the DK quest line is one of the best sets of quests out there. I have made a new death knight quite a few times but never seem to stick with them, but each time, I enjoy the quests- especially riding the dragon.

Well it seems like the quests have been left to seed a bit now that there's not the rush of new death knights. When the expansion first came out I did the DK quests and man, it was a feeding frenzy. Mobs of DKs obliterating the scarlet crusade. Kinda fun! Now I saw one other person the whole time.

It started when I was supposed to go kill my old friend. That's always been a quest that makes me uneasy. Its well done in that way to show you how soulless the scourge is, and it works well, but it's still unpleasant to do. Well guess what? I go, wait for the person to finish chastising me and whack her. No credit for the quest. Crap. Wait for her to repop, chastise me some more, off her. Still no credit. -.- Drop the quest and get it. Experience the most uncomfortable part of the quests a third time, stick my blade into my old companion, ahh this time it works. :(

The part where you're supposed to hide behind the badly faked tree and jump the courier didn't work right either. I went to the hill, put up the fake tree, and the courier was instantly attack me out of nowhere. Not him going down the path, see a strange tree and go to investigate like it's supposed to do, he just pops in combat with me. o.O ok whatever.

The worst error though was during the battle for Lights Hope Chapel part. I go there, and nobody is around, talk to Mograine, and '5 minutes until battle starts!' pops up. Blah, brings me back to waiting for the airship in FFXI. So I watch some TV, come back and start up the battle. It's going alright, as expected. Killing stuff, and then the battle is over. Only, not quite. My allies disappear, I lose the war buff that makes you get healed, have a ton of hp etc, but the enemies don't dissapear! They all spin around and smash me into the ground. Dead. Pretty sure you're not supposed to die during that staged battle. The valkyr comes and resses me, ok cool, not that bad right? I res... *SQUISH!* didn't even see anything touch me, just instant dead again. -.- Ok, run back from the graveyard hoping I don't miss the event and have to do it over. Get back, res, wait. Wait some more. Uh. Mograine is there hunched over but nothing is happening. It takes a good 5 minutes before the event where the Lich king and such comes, but he finally does. Blah. Off to stormwind to get spit at!

Varian is dead. I turn off the computer.

The entire DK starting zone defines the entire culture of what it means to be a minion of the Lich King....where's the disconnect?

Ummm, yeah, that's the point?

As a Death Knight, you don't give a crap about the squabbles of the races anymore. You stand apart, and just happen to be joining the fight against the Lich King. You are no more a Human/Troll/whatever than a Forsaken is Human. The only reason we are assigned to a faction is for gameplay reasons, because it would be stupid to create a hero race that couldn't partake in PvP. Thassarian doesn't send you to fight the Horde, despite being based on the Alliance ship. Everyone else is bickering about the Orcs, but he does what needs to be done to eliminate the Scourge. Koltira is as close a thing to a friend as anyone ever may be.

You are a Death Knight. You unflinchingly raise the corpses of your allies and enemies to serve you. Without batting an eye, you infect your enemies with horrible diseases and then use your magics to spread them as far as you can. You use necromantic magic to freeze the blood of your enemies, leaching life out of life whenever possible. You willingly kill and disease the land you walk on, for a tactical advantage (which is something Shaman and Druids find scandalizing). You are ruled far more by logic than by feelings. The limits of acceptable losses to you is WAY higher than those of your allies. And you put a good deal more stock in the life of a Death Knight than even a Paladin.

You aren't welcome in towns and cities, you are tolerated. No one forgives the things you've done just because you've assisted in the war effort in Northrend. As far as they are concerned, you are a traitor, Lich King's will be damned.

This zone was INCREDIBLY well designed. It shows how far Death Knights have fallen. You can relentlessly rend apart people and use the remains to your desire. To be fair, they were Scarlet Zealots, but living nonetheless. And the farmers probably didn't have any personal feelings (or knowledge) of Scarlet workings. It really had nothing to do with introducing new mechanics. Everything there would be seen by the first 70 to wander into NR. And the Frostwyrm part was more annoying than most other vehicle fights (pre-dungeons) in that it is actually easy to die.

That zone was the epitome of what it was to be a DK.

Hence why I dislike it. They literally put you in the shoes of a heartless *******. Which is a position I don't very much like being in. AKA:



I'll admit my post wasn't crystal clear, but you might want to make sure you've read it thoroughly before posting a huge rant in reply.

No, you're still misreading my post - hence why I said last post that I realize it wasn't entirely clear; you're supposed to read the sentence as if there were a period behind 'Eversong Forest'. Contrary to the DK area, I do like the other zones, period. The sentence past the floating - is more of a random thought I had when thinking of those zones.


A) I wanted to see what the class was like.
B) I care about the lore behind the toon, just not enough to actually avoid it. Even if I dislike the idea of warlocks, that doesn't prevent me from actually trying one out - and possibly even leveling him to the cap if his playstyle suits me.


Regardless though, you never really play 'the bad guy' through the normal questlines.


That's actually an interesting point of view. It makes sense. It's just that I view the Scourge a little bit more as an "army you fight in" rather than something taking direct control of your entire soul - I like to think my character's actions are a bit more his own will than the Lich King's. I see the 'control' Arthas has over you more as a 'corruption' that messes with your brain rather than a complete mind control. Which means that in the end, I feel it's still really my (character's) decision to do all that killing.

Just to be 100% fair here, we cannot be expected to know what you intend to have written or placed. All we know is what you actually wrote. You used an em-dash rather than a period. They are not functionally identical (or even similar, really).

I can see how it would be different had you used the proper grammar. But what we read wasn't ambiguous at all. You said something very clearly. You just wrote something you didn't intend to write.