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#1 Jan 08 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
Asnew enchants have emerged since runeforging was first intoduced... for a pure DPS DK, what is better... the crusdaer rune or one of the +AP chants, either 110 AP to 2h'er or the other one that takes away a little Armor (who cares as a DPS'er) but increases AP a silly amount?
#2 Jan 08 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Runeforges remain superior.

A. RFs tend to give you two effects, a major and a minor one. The major is usually better than any other possibility, so the smaller buff makes it even better.

B. Tanking enchants suck--you will always want to use SSG, BS or FC (the last is not recommended).

C. Let's do some specific comparisons.

1. Fallen Crusader gives 15% Str, a 2% heal, lasts 15 seconds.
2. Berserking gives 400 AP, -5% armor, lasts 15 seconds.

400 AP = 200 St.

200=.15*Str means you need 1334 Str to match Berserking. Raid geared DKs generally have over 2K, before buffs. That's 600 AP--200 more than Berserking.

Furthermore, Berserking DOESN'T give you a net gain of 400 AP. Most DK specs include Bladed Armor, which gives 1 AP (per talent point) for ever 180 armor you have.

15K is probably an okay number to assume for a raid-level DK. That means you'd lose 750 armor, which is over 20 AP (with 5 points).

So you'd gain, say, 379 AP from a Berserking proc.

So, at 2K Str (let's say buffed), Berserking would give you 221 less AP. And you'd lose survivability, where FC HEALS you for 3%. And it boosts Str, which gives you Parry.

Berserking doesn't even come close. My TANK'S gear, when buffed by Mark and Forgotten Kings, surpasses the Str threshhold to make FC better.

And, while this is just heresay, FC may not have an ICD, which gives it a superior uptime to Berserking.
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#3 Jan 08 2010 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
I don't really have the math around. The reason I don't have the math around is because I find it next to impossible to believe that even Blizzard would make runeforging obsolete. I have never seen a DK with anything but a runeforge on. I think you will be safe with using runeforge, generally Fallen Crusader, over an AP enchant.

If there is an enchant that is better, please let me know as I would be extremely surprised.
#4 Jan 09 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, no Enchant even comes close to the RFs at raid levels. And, even in Heroics, you will likely get more out of the RF due to the additional affects.

That said, if you want to lol at how OP FC used to be...

So, now, assuming the same uptime (though, like I said, I think FC's is higher), the RF will give you 300 AP at 1K str and 600 AP at 2K Str.

Well, it used to be that it gave you 600 AP at 1K Str, and 1.2K AP at 2K str. OP? I THINK SO.
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#6 Jan 09 2010 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Apparently, Angstycoder is a ninja admin...
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