WTF with the Armor Pen??Follow

Ok, so we're mutilate and we don't need much ArP anymore...

Then WTF does nearly all of the new lvl 264 gear have it?

Discuss.

Because Mutilate is the only spec Rogues have, amirite?

Look again homie... I'm not talking about tier only. Look at the badge gear too. A lot of ArP.

But your point is well-stated.

Just to add to that, ArP is the best Feral Cat stat once you have 400-500 or so. That's a pretty significant reason to put it on gear.

Ummm... Cats? And a lot of the gear is BiS for Bears, as well.

oh noes!! Warriors stealing our leather.....
oh the humanity!!

"when the eagles go silent, the parrots will jabber"
Winston Churchill

...what? Explain please.

The only thing that is requires is Deadly Poison on the boss and a Bleed. Deadly poison is automatic, and in 90% of raids someone else puts up a bleed.

I tried it again actually. I went with the exact spec listed for 80 as mutilate spec. I was doing 1k less damage on bosses in heroics (didn't test on a raid) then I did with my own combat spec. Weapon wise I ahve the two il232 daggers that drop in the new heroics for mutilate, for my combat I have nighttime and that other fast 1h sword (using sword/axe spec obviously on this spec). So basically all my weapons have the same dps just differnt stats and attack speeds. Did about 3k on bosses with mutilate spec, 4k on other bosses with my combat spec. STill I join a raid and lesser geared rogues can out dps me and i am sure it is my spec.

I guess one thing to consider is my daggers only have +50 AP enchants where Nighttime has Berserking and my offhand sword has +65 AP. Don't think the enchant would be causing this much dps loss. I might have a bad rotation.

Here is a link to my character. As of posting this it don't show my 2nd talent tree as assassin but the only difference in gear would be the weapons mentioned above.

LINK

I like how you suggest the problem may be with your rotation (and a large portion of it probably is, btw) but give no hints as to what that actually is.

Your daggers have 100 AP. Your swords have (averaged) 200-315 AP.

Without considering the addition of damage multipliers to these abilities, the better enchants would net them an average of:

Envenom- 45-90 more damage for 5 points
Garrote- 71-142 more damage over the duration.
Deadly Poison- 12-24 damage more, per stack.
Instant Poison- 10-20 more damage.

Many of your abilities get some pretty huge talent boosts. And your auto-attack strikes are buffed with the AP.

Vile Poisons is 20% to 3 of those. Murder is 4% to all of them. Find Weakness is 6% to all of them. HfB is a buff to them all.

Not a huge amount, no. But more than you give it credit for. That+Not knowing the rotation+Having worse weapons can easily make a 1K difference, I'd bet.

[EDIT]

Is the PvP set what you do PvE content in? And you have quite a bit of ArP, which is favoring Combat more, which adds things.

Edited, Jan 7th 2010 12:40am by idiggory

Exactly. I shied away from it for a long time, foolishly, because of reading a lot of people's whining (not here) about how "complicated" it was.

Since it's a new spec for you, just spend five or ten minutes on a combat dummy before the raid. It seriously is not that bad.

And in response to the bleed/no bleed issue, I spend more than half my time in 10-mans with my guild. And we don't have a kitty or a dps warrior or a bear tank or a marks in our 10-mans, which makes me sad. But big deal, I spend one global on putting up a bleed every one minute, and it's not like there's no dps at all in that global.

Follow GoM's advice Fronglo, and have fun.