In my efforts to make healing more fun for me while on my druid, I've had to come up with ways to entertain myself in heroics. My general fallback is to start dpsing while I heal. I'm averaging around 700 dps a boss right now and keeping the party alive. This is all in my normal resto spec. Well, to spice things up a little I'm tempted to respec into a more dps friendly resto spec.
I know I'm crazy but!
I don't really know right now if starfire is going to be better or if wrath will be for the nuke. I'm gonna have to play with it awhile and find out.
I'll do some tests on some heroics because this seems like an incredibly fun thing to do.
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You're nuts :p
But how's the 10% spell haste from GotEM compare to the buffs from Lunar Guidance and Balance of Power DPS-wise? (don't know if Moonfury or Balance of Power is better for you boomkins, just guessing :p) I healed 5-mans in a hybrid spec without WG during 60s and 70s; and I didn't have access to that sexy Rapid RJ glyph. ;-)
You could just plop a couple of extra points in Improved Tranquility to compensate in case things get out of hand. Something like this maybe? It's a bit of haste to lose from RJ ticks though...
Edited, Jan 2nd 2010 1:14pm by someproteinguy
But how's the 10% spell haste from GotEM compare to the buffs from Lunar Guidance and Balance of Power DPS-wise? (don't know if Moonfury or Balance of Power is better for you boomkins, just guessing :p) I healed 5-mans in a hybrid spec without WG during 60s and 70s; and I didn't have access to that sexy Rapid RJ glyph. ;-)
You could just plop a couple of extra points in Improved Tranquility to compensate in case things get out of hand. Something like this maybe? It's a bit of haste to lose from RJ ticks though...
Edited, Jan 2nd 2010 1:14pm by someproteinguy
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This is crazy talk.
Using tree form while trying to DPS. Insanity.
Maybe something like this. Maybe switching one glyph out to use the HT one.
Rocking your old Moonkin set with insane haste and crit, Nourish, Rejuv and HT would be both fast and critty. Just like the nukes.
Using tree form while trying to DPS. Insanity.
Maybe something like this. Maybe switching one glyph out to use the HT one.
Rocking your old Moonkin set with insane haste and crit, Nourish, Rejuv and HT would be both fast and critty. Just like the nukes.
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idiggory wrote:
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I wanted to keep wild growth. I need that 6 second party heal incase of splash damage. I plan on doing this with the most amount of haste that I can possibly get for quick rejuv ticks.
I basically want to be able to push out fast wrath or fast starfire and have my rejuvs tick as fast as humanly possible.
This is my rough theory crafting behind it. I don't want to over complicate what "rotation" this build would have with IS built in just because it's going to be interrupted by incoming damage on players.
I do wonder if it would be beneficial to have a lot of haste and no rapid rejuv glyph so I could possibly dps longer...
Like I said earlier, I'll have to do some testing on this build.
I basically want to be able to push out fast wrath or fast starfire and have my rejuvs tick as fast as humanly possible.
This is my rough theory crafting behind it. I don't want to over complicate what "rotation" this build would have with IS built in just because it's going to be interrupted by incoming damage on players.
I do wonder if it would be beneficial to have a lot of haste and no rapid rejuv glyph so I could possibly dps longer...
Like I said earlier, I'll have to do some testing on this build.
Are you using Tree form at all or just getting the talent for access to WG?
Well maybe using Tree on some of the bosses where the added throughput would be needed depending on the groups gear level.
Well maybe using Tree on some of the bosses where the added throughput would be needed depending on the groups gear level.
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idiggory wrote:
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I stay in caster. I can't cast balance spells from tree.
You're exactly right as to why I have the point in there.
You're exactly right as to why I have the point in there.
ArexLovesPie of Future Fabulous! wrote:
I wanted to keep wild growth. I need that 6 second party heal incase of splash damage.
The only time I wished I had circle of healing in heroics so far on my priest was the halls of reflection thrash with a mediocre tank.
But even then my relatively weak and horribly expensive Prayer of Healing and single target heals keep everyone up easily.
Edit: and I topped at 1100 dps in VH and PvP spec (for 0.5 sec faster smites and holy fires)
Edited, Jan 3rd 2010 12:10pm by Aethien
While Aethien is cheating on DPS since he is using a priest to heal his splash damage pint is point on.
Which is what I was thinking with the spec I linked, focusing on Rapid Rejuv and Nourish/HT for actual heals.
The haste I was referencing to will also make for faster Starfire, which is more mana efficient and the spec's main down fall will be mana.
Haste plus the new glyph and fast direct heals, no tree form, no WG.
He11 if you wanted to tweak the one I linked a bit, drop 2 from NP to buff Tranq.
Now that is CRAZY.
edit: Mind Sear is OP.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2010 6:17am by Horsemouth
Which is what I was thinking with the spec I linked, focusing on Rapid Rejuv and Nourish/HT for actual heals.
The haste I was referencing to will also make for faster Starfire, which is more mana efficient and the spec's main down fall will be mana.
Haste plus the new glyph and fast direct heals, no tree form, no WG.
He11 if you wanted to tweak the one I linked a bit, drop 2 from NP to buff Tranq.
Now that is CRAZY.
edit: Mind Sear is OP.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2010 6:17am by Horsemouth
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idiggory wrote:
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I don't really mind sear.
I healed all of UP today with shields a few PoM's and Holy Nova spam.
800 dps overall!
I healed all of UP today with shields a few PoM's and Holy Nova spam.
800 dps overall!
What!
You should Mind Sear on big pulls the DPS is great.
You should Mind Sear on big pulls the DPS is great.
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idiggory wrote:
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don't have it keybound and then I'd need to do more than spam one button.
Which is too much effort for heroics.
Which is too much effort for heroics.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
don't have it keybound and then I'd need to do more than spam one button.
Which is too much effort for heroics.
Which is too much effort for heroics.
Same excuse I use when I'm doing heroics.
"No! You may not have Wild Growth, you may have Rejuvenation. Quit yer whining and use bandages, fools!"
Of course, this is a little troublesome when I'm tanking. Turns out, Swipe spam isn't great on single targets. Whodda thunk it?
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
So Arex, has anyone given you grief when DPSing as healer?
I ask because I have been doing some DPS as a tree healer lately(when the group is solid) and I have had a tank say to me: "Healer...you are only here to heal, play the role you signed up for or GTFO".
No, no one died (or even got under 75% health), nor did I get close to OOM. I was not even trying to get the DPS numbers others Posters are putting up. I would simply throw a Faerie Fire (pops me outta tree) and fire off a moonfire before popping back to tree, all while hots roll on every party member. The odd time if everyone is looking good health-wise I may fire off a wrath or two.
I guess I understand the logic of someone getting upset if it seems you are not fulfilling the role you signed up for and maybe I will just have to go back to Kitty if I wanna do damage.
I ended up staying in tree after that and nearly falling asleep as we walked the rest of the was through DTK.
This DPS/heal combo is fun and one of the few things that entertains me in this game lately.
Maybe I should reserve the DPS/Heal fun for guilies and friends...or maybe I just had an over protective tank?
Edited, Jan 21st 2010 3:10pm by RaideroftheBlade
I ask because I have been doing some DPS as a tree healer lately(when the group is solid) and I have had a tank say to me: "Healer...you are only here to heal, play the role you signed up for or GTFO".
No, no one died (or even got under 75% health), nor did I get close to OOM. I was not even trying to get the DPS numbers others Posters are putting up. I would simply throw a Faerie Fire (pops me outta tree) and fire off a moonfire before popping back to tree, all while hots roll on every party member. The odd time if everyone is looking good health-wise I may fire off a wrath or two.
I guess I understand the logic of someone getting upset if it seems you are not fulfilling the role you signed up for and maybe I will just have to go back to Kitty if I wanna do damage.
I ended up staying in tree after that and nearly falling asleep as we walked the rest of the was through DTK.
This DPS/heal combo is fun and one of the few things that entertains me in this game lately.
Maybe I should reserve the DPS/Heal fun for guilies and friends...or maybe I just had an over protective tank?
Edited, Jan 21st 2010 3:10pm by RaideroftheBlade
I`ve being healing/dpsing in old heroics. New heroics I just stay as tree and heal all I can. My gear wont let me dps on new heroics. too much damage.
I did a Halls of Stone last night and used a rejuv on the tank and WG for the party. Only about 2 regrowths for the run. Hit over 1300dps on some of the bosses too! What "rotation" are you guys using? As full resto spec I was hitting moonfire then spamming wrath. I tried using starfire but found the cast time too annoying, especially when the DPS were almost dieing and I didn't want to heal them till the cast had finished :)
Its like BC moonkin, but replace starfire with wrath and profit.
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