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#1 Jan 02 2010 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
Having fun and using a staff. I see I have other choices of main hand weapons. What would I hold in off hand if I did use a one handed weapon and of the other weapons which might be best to level up
#2 Jan 02 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I use the Grand Staff of Jordan, if you have an 80 its easy to get and you never have to change weapons.

Edited, Jan 2nd 2010 12:15pm by Benderbrau
#3 Jan 02 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
That is perfect and my Pally has the most shards so she will get the rest of them. For my Shammy I had gotten the mace and the dagger. Didnt even think of checking there. Also, will get her the cloth shoulders that my Shammy is using for extra xp.

Thanks
#4 Jan 02 2010 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, there aren't any caster BoA 1-hands that a lock can use. And there are no BoA off-hand items.

I'd go with the Dignified Headmaster's Charge instead of trying to find actual weapons/off hands from quests/instances/AH.

Unless, of course, you want to level up the skill. Then just grab a white one from a vendor, set your VW to defensive with taunt on AC and just whack the mob to death.
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#5 Jan 02 2010 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
No, the staff of Jordan will be fine. The BOA is working well for my Shammy. Lock is still new and this will work.
#6 Jan 13 2010 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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If you have no access to BoA stuff, your best bet will be a staff for a few levels as the tend to have the best stats.

When you get to SM level ou will have the option to get the blade and offhand, a lot of casters go for this as spell power tends to be the IN THING, even at low level.

There will be a lot of SP gear at this level, so specially as a Lock you will be pretty mean in pve and pvp.

#7 Jan 14 2010 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
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netsharp wrote:
When you get to SM level ou will have the option to get the blade and offhand


Why would someone drop a BoA weapon that is the equivalent of a blue-quality item that has no durability loss and will level with their character all the way to 80 to instead get a temporary one-hand/offhand combo?

netsharp wrote:
a lot of casters go for this as spell power tends to be the IN THING


lol, yeah.....spellpower has been the "in thing" for caster dps for awhile.
#8 Jan 14 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Why would someone drop a BoA weapon that is the equivalent of a blue-quality item that has no durability loss and will level with their character all the way to 80 to instead get a temporary one-hand/offhand combo?

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If you have no access to BoA stuff
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lol, yeah.....spellpower has been the "in thing" for caster dps for awhile.


It never used to be whilst leveling in azeroth, once you hit OL and NR ofc it is.

Edited, Jan 14th 2010 1:33pm by netsharp
#9 Jan 14 2010 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
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netsharp wrote:
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a lot of casters go for this as spell power tends to be the IN THING


lol, yeah.....spellpower has been the "in thing" for caster dps for awhile.


It never used to be whilst leveling in azeroth, once you hit OL and NR ofc it is.


Spellpower isn't important for a lock for levels 1-58? What should they be shooting for then? Agility? Attack power?
#10 Jan 14 2010 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
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Again with the not reading thing. It never USED to be, meaning it is now. Many low level toons sacrifice a lot of sta and int for a piece with minimal sp.

Sp plays more of a part once you hit OL.
#11 Jan 14 2010 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
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netsharp wrote:
It never USED to be


Ummm, so what? You also couldn't get a mount at level 20, but is that relevant to someone currently leveling a character?

netsharp wrote:
meaning it is now


Right. And I was speaking about the "now", which is where we are all living and playing.
#12 Jan 15 2010 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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And so was I untill you came along with your snarky comments which kinda backfired on you.
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#13 Jan 15 2010 at 9:32 AM Rating: Default
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No it didn't. You keep trying to give out "advice" that spellpower is not important to locks, or at best it is a fad. This is plainly wrong, because in fact it is the single stat that scales best for us and makes the most impact on our dps, no matter what your spec.

My comments are not snarky, but more incredulous that someone would insist on making these claims and steer someone leveling a lock in the wrong direction.

I like how you keep trying to backtrack now though.

Edited, Jan 15th 2010 9:43am by CountFenris
#14 Jan 15 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Since when have I said that sp is bad? Or a fad. Everything I have said points to that it is the in thing for leveling. Not a fad.

Cars are an in thing, they certainly aren't a fad.

What was the 1st thing I told him to do? get sp blade and OH....oh the terrible things sP can do for you...leave them alone ohhhhhh

You started going off in all kinds of directions after I pointed out your inability to read(see what I did there?.)

I like how you try so hard, yet get no cookie. Good day ma'am

Edited, Jan 15th 2010 10:57am by netsharp
#15 Jan 15 2010 at 10:08 AM Rating: Default
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Did you make an account just to troll the warlock forums? Or is your command of English just that kinda bad?

Keep that backtracking though.
#16 Jan 15 2010 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, CF, you're a little out of line.

The guy only offered advice and from looking at it (with eyes that remember 2005), I'd say it's solid.

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If you have no access to BoA stuff, your best bet will be a staff for a few levels as the tend to have the best stats.


This is, or was, true for Vanilla and most of The Burning Crusade. Staves tend to have a surplus of stamina whereas 1h + OH gives you more spell power. Warlocks love stamina as health equals mana for us. The 10 or 20 spell power we lose is no biggie, especially while leveling.

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When you get to SM level ou will have the option to get the blade and offhand, a lot of casters go for this as spell power tends to be the IN THING, even at low level.


I know what netsharp meant with this and I honestly think you're overreacting, CF. He wasn't saying spell power is bad. He wasn't being arrogant about spell power's efficiency. What he meant (or means) is that low levels tend to focus more on spell power now. It wasn't more than a few expansion ago that you couldn't get spell power on your gear. Hell, through most of TBC you couldn't get spell power until level 50+ and it didn't start to really matter until 60+ when you hit Outland.

The general rule of thumb, while leveling a Warlock, is to stack stamina. Loads of it. This only changed when low level gear was revamped to include spell power in decent amounts. Remember, a lot of the low level stuff that has spell power on it now didn't a year ago. Take the dagger from Scarlet Monastery. I remember when that dagger didn't have spell power on it, or whatever "increase" it now has.

So, yeah, you started out with misreading his post and then you proceeded to flame the guy, ending it with a post wherein you ask him if he created an account just to troll the Warlock forum.

With some 25k posts under my belt, I want to know if you, CF, came here just to troll this thread, because you've brought nothing to the table except flames.

And I'm not being personal or biased. I don't know either of you very well, least of all netsharp. I just don't think it's fair to run the troll-pitchfork-bonfire drill on a guy who gives advice, especially when you misread his post and proceed to flame him. Yes, I noticed you're putting words in his mouth and twisting them a couple of times. Why are you baiting him?

Edit: Also, taking low-blows at someone's English skills gets old - fast.

Edited, Jan 16th 2010 2:41am by Mazra
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#17 Jan 16 2010 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm also going to side with netsharp on this. His post wasn't ambiguous at all, and certainly doesn't deserve the hazing you're giving him.
#18 Jan 16 2010 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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This is, or was, true for Vanilla and most of The Burning Crusade. Staves tend to have a surplus of stamina whereas 1h + OH gives you more spell power. Warlocks love stamina as health equals mana for us. The 10 or 20 spell power we lose is no biggie, especially while leveling.


Take the Emberstone Staff for example from DM. A nice chunk of Sta and Int for the level, a similar spell dagger and orb will maybe have half these stats. This is a basic point I was trying to make.

Thanks, Mazra for understanding.
#19 Jan 16 2010 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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I see someone disagrees with me, but people, think what you may, this is still a friendly forum. If someone presents information that you find wrong, you let that person know in a friendly manner. There is no excuse for going all-out on someone just because you simply disagree with him. Especially not when you misunderstand a crucial piece of information.

And at least have the guts to let us know with what and why you disagree. Blanket-rating is so '06.

Edited, Jan 18th 2010 5:11pm by Mazra
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#20 Jan 22 2010 at 8:22 PM Rating: Good
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Staff has always been a good choice, just ask Kralnor. I hear he had a good staff.
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