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#1 Dec 20 2009 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
I've just started a priest (20 so far)as I got bored of DPs classes,and was wondering if you could advise me on how to heal efficently in instances when I start running them,as I've seen my share of bad priests on my hunter,and have no wish to join the club. I've always tried to do my job to the best of my ability. I've gone mostly Shadow talent tree so far,as it's works best for me running quests and such.

Edited, Dec 20th 2009 10:42am by ozwwjd
#2 Dec 20 2009 at 4:57 AM Rating: Good
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How to heal as a priest: Don't let people's healthbar reach zero.

Of course there's the right spells for certain situations, and it always helps to keep shield and renew up on the tank but you'll learn from experience.


















And Smite Spec > Shadow for leveling, srsly.
(Pick up spirit tap first, then go into disc for meditation > holy tree > disc, and take smite glyph first)
#3 Dec 20 2009 at 7:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sticky. Up top. Tells you how to heal. Smiley: nod Read it. Know it. Live it.

Meanwhile, at low level when you have no spells, keep Renew rolling on the tank all the time, and, pretty much, Heal for big damage (tank) and Flash Heal for little damage (DPS). It's good to Shield the tank too but until it gets talented it can be a mana hog, so at low level you don't necessarily want to do it every time. Then every time you get a new spell while leveling, learn what it does and why and when to use it, and start using it. The strength of a priest for healing is the huge number of tools in the box. When you hit level 40 you'll get Greater Heal and then you'll take Heal off your toolbar forever. Also make sure you have a unit frame that does something special (a border or such) when someone's got a debuff you can dispel and don't forget to keep up with that.

While leveling through instances is also a good time to try various healing UI's (Healbot, Grid, Clique, VuhDo, etc.) to see what you're comfortable with. We have lots of UI discussions here so I'm sure you can find plenty of info. I think most healers are still using Grid. Dadanox and a growing number of his fans like VuhDo. I just use Pitbull frames with Clique and macros, but that does not mean I am not Dadanox's fan.

As Aethien says, if you are planning on doing lots of instances on the way up, you may want to level with a Smite spec. I'd do 3/3 Spirit Tap first, then Holy up to Searing Light, then Disc up to Meditation, then finish straight up either up Holy or Disc, whichever tickles your fancy. If you decide on Holy and you're just questing, with Spirit Tap you may find you're never drinking anyway and in that case if you don't want to take a detour for Meditation that's fine too. If you're doing battlegrounds while leveling, you need Meditation because Spirit Tap will not kick in enough.

There is no reason that you can't heal instances as Shadow while leveling, and Shadow can be a very fun spec, but if you're mainly interested in healing it is worth it to get to know the healing trees well, and they are not inefficient for leveling anymore. They're also nice if you plan on doing battlegrounds while leveling. It's a lot of fun to heal battlegrounds when you're at x1 or x2 - DPSers can still get one-shot coming in so low but healers are always strong contributors regardless of level.


Edited because I can't spell on Sunday.


Edited, Dec 20th 2009 8:27am by teacake
#4 Dec 20 2009 at 9:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Remember you are the healer. For now, in an instance, just heal. Resist the temptation to do damage. If you start doing damage, things will get ahead of you, and people will die. As you gain experience, you can make up your own mind on this.

I don't know how many addons you have played with. As a healer, you will probably use one to help see everyone's health, and information about incoming debuffs. It wouldn't be a bad thing to start trying some that Teacake mentioned. Priests need good information to keep everyone alive. If a certain debuff lands on a party member, you need to be able to start healing or dispelling immediately. Spotting those situations is easier with a healing addon. If you see people have a magic effect, you may dispel it. If you don't know, you wont dispel it and your healing may not be as effective.

One more thing. Learn to fade. When you start healing, adds may decide you need to be taken out. Low level tanks aren't the best at grabbing agro on multiple mobs. Put a shield on yourself before the pull, and have fade keybound for fast access. When you see the mobs head for you, hit fade and they will probably head back to the tank.

When combat starts, try not to do anything for a couple seconds. This lets the tank build a little agro.

Welcome to the Priesthood. I hope you will have as much fun as we do. To me, healing is the most enjoyable role in the game you can play.

Edited, Dec 21st 2009 9:42am by dadanox
#5 Dec 21 2009 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
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Also be mindful of how much you spells heal compared to how much you need to heal. You'll run oom if you use your hardest heal when the tank is down 10% health and it heals for 60% of the tank's health. Pay attention how fast the Tank's health is going down compared to how fast you can heal. When you get more experience healing, you'll be able to time your heals (in most situations) for greater efficiency. Practice will help you get that down.


P.S. I leveled shadow and heals most instances through outlands, so don't worry too much about you spec, but a healing spec will make thing easier. If you can, try and have some extra manage regen gear for when you heal.
#6 Dec 28 2009 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for the advice. Currently I'm loving my shadow spec,although I probably will do a healing tree when I get up to the higher-level instances. Right now I'm wondering if I queue for a instance around my level(currently 30),will there be time for me to do some damage as well,or will I need to be healing all the time?
#7 Dec 29 2009 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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ozwwjd wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Currently I'm loving my shadow spec,although I probably will do a healing tree when I get up to the higher-level instances. Right now I'm wondering if I queue for a instance around my level(currently 30),will there be time for me to do some damage as well,or will I need to be healing all the time?


In general (regardless of level) this depends on the group. If the tank is well geared and the DPS know how to not steal aggro, you may have some time/mana left over for doing a little DPS. If your tank is not quite up to the challenge gear-wise, you need to pick up that slack.

I'd strongly recommend that while you're learning to heal though, you only heal. This is not because I don't think you can handle throwing out a Mind Blast and watching someone's health bar at the same time (although frankly even that takes some getting used to). A huge part of learning to heal is learning to manage mana. Until you have a really good feel for how many heals you'll need to throw out before the fight is over, I don't think you want to go spending mana on optional things. Another consideration is that not everything always - or even usually - goes as expected or planned. If your tank suddenly pulls extra adds or gets an unexpected spike in damage and wasn't topped off and Shield has worn off while you were busy elsewhere and you can't throw out a heal immediately because you're on a GCD from Smite? Fail. Wipe. Much blaming of the healer.
#8 Dec 29 2009 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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Right now I'm wondering if I queue for a instance around my level(currently 30),will there be time for me to do some damage as well,or will I need to be healing all the time?


I recommend just healing, but if you get really bored you can wand a bit. Spells use up mana you might need later, and too much damage will lead to aggro. Remember as a priest you aggro easily.

A simple addon is grids. I put poison on the top left corner, magic on the top right, renew and shield on the lower left corner and weaken soul on the lower left. I put more than 30 yards away on the name and aggro on the border of the frame.

I put dispel disease keybound on 1, dispel magic on 4, flash heal on 2 (or q), shield on 3 (or e) and renew on 5. (I tend not to use heal, but I have that keybound on g).

Use either the shield, flash heal or renew glyphs.

When the tank starts taking damage I shield, when they take more I flash heal. If the top left corner lights up I hit 1, top right I hit 4. If someone else aggros (border) and ONLY IF the tank is doing OK and I am doing OK AND I have plenty of mana, I will shield the other player, etc. as needed. If the tanks name disappears I am too far away.

You can also use grids in Battlegrounds with great success.

#9 Dec 29 2009 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
Yep, Grid is a time tested, very configurable addon. Here's my Grid configuration post, as a blast from the past.

I'm currently using Vuhdo. It also works well. I have switched from pressing keys for most of my healing spells (except a couple of oh sh!@@! buttons), to clicking mouse button combinations (5 button mouse strongly suggested). I suggest checking the option to make any target healed your current target. To give you a feel for how this works, my mousebindings include:

left click: PW: Shield
right click: Renew
Middle: Mass Dispell
Shift Middle: PoM
Side one: Penance
shift side one: Pain Suppression
Side two: Flash Heal
Shift side two: Greater Heal
Shift left: dispel magic
Shift right: abolish disease
Alt left: PoH
ctrl left: binding heal

I've got Vuhdo auto-firing both my spell power trinkets during combat, and I have inner focus and power infusion included in macros to autofire on PoH or Greater Heal. I've got fade, shackle, rocket boosts (with desperite prayer), holy nova, and divine hymn keybound.

I've probably forgotten something, but you get the idea.

Edited, Dec 29th 2009 12:22pm by dadanox
#10 Dec 29 2009 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Dadanox wrote:
left click: PW: Shield
right click: Renew
Middle: Mass Dispell
Shift Middle: PoM
Side one: Penance
shift side one: Pain Suppression
Side two: Flash Heal
Shift side two: Greater Heal
Shift left: dispel magic
Shift right: abolish disease
Alt left: PoH
ctrl left: binding heal


You forgot to toss in your dps spells :) Lol

I have my Vuhdo step up to cast off my target's target, incase I get bored or we need some added dmg. Smite, SW:P, Holy Fire, DP, and Mind Sear are set to my ctrl clicks for disc.
Then for my shadow spec all of heals are set to ctrl, I seem to have really bad luck with pug healers for the ICC 5mans...

BTW Dadanox, thanks for the tip on switching specs with vuhdo. I renamed my specs and they switch without a problem now ^_^
#11 Dec 29 2009 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
I rarely dps when healing. I find that my sporadic dps doesn't add much to the group, and the loss of focus on healing can be a detriment to the group's survival. There are exceptions of course, like holy nova on non-elite adds, and I nuke the heck out of the dragon at the end of timed CoS runs.

Since I'm pretty firmly entrenched in disc as my healing spec, I made shadow my off spec. I like that I can still throw a shield as shadow, and have some heals bound as backup healer (PoH especially useful). I've got my Vampiric Touch macro automatically putting me back in shadowform with "/cast [nostance] Shadowform", in case I've popped out with a heal. I'm going to do the same on my druid, so I don't forget to go back into Tree form.

Edited, Jan 1st 2010 8:40am by dadanox
#12 Dec 30 2009 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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've got my Vampiric Touch macro automatically putting me back in shadowform, in case I've popped out with a heal.


An excellent idea! Maybe do the same with VE before you get VT.
#13 Dec 30 2009 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, for most runs and hardly any raids (unless it requires a full out dps burn on the boss) I do not bother to dps.

But in battlegrounds it is nice to not have to take my hand off the mouse to dps. I'm horrible with pvp and very lazy, I avoid moving my cursor from my raid frames as much as possible, safer for everyone that way.
#14 Dec 30 2009 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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NCJim wrote:
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've got my Vampiric Touch macro automatically putting me back in shadowform, in case I've popped out with a heal.


An excellent idea! Maybe do the same with VE before you get VT.


With VE going to a 30 minute buff, this might not work so well, anymore. :)

As to the OP, I leveled as Shadow ... way back in the day. I think I was in the upper 40's when 1.10 hit with the big Priest revamp. Switched to Holy at 56 and leveled to 60 as Holy (did a lot of instance runs). Believe it or not, I leveled 60 - 70 as Holy and was the 2nd one to 70 in my guild. Switched to Shadow to level 70 - 80 and then spent a lot of money flipping back and forth. Between the time I hit 80 and the time Dual specs was released ... I think I spent at least the 1000g. :)

All that to say, leveling as Shadow doesn't prevent you from healing instances on the way up. For me, it made it better for me to learn how to effectively heal the instances, because I didn't have all the tricks and efficiencies that the healing trees give you. And if all else fails, there's always melting faces. Smiley: grin
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