Kitty meets the Devourer of SoulsFollow

As long as people know the tactics, it's actually a very easy fight so I'd recommend you stick to direct damage and only use Rake immediately after a Mirrored Soul expires. It's not fool-proof, but any healer worth his salt should be able to handle a Rake tick on someone adequately geared.

The hardest part in there for me is when all those ghosts spawn, but it's still nothing compared to Halls of Reflection.

Most deaths I've seen on that boss thus far have been because of people not knowing how Mirrored Soul works, that large colored spots on the floor might hurt them or that large laser beams could do ouch. Boils down to general understanding of an encounter and some common sense. If you were pet-tanking the place, I'm assuming you weren't running with a PUG. Take some time to explain tactics and bring down the pain if they fail badly.

Otherwise they'll never learn to listen. Too many ADD players as it is. I've had my fair share of

"You all know the tactics?"
"Yayayaya, goooooo!"
/fail

to know that people need more patience.

Phantom Blasts is an issue even when it's only hitting the tank. I can imagine how a 15k hit on random group members might have the healer stressed out.

I'd probably recommend you don't pet-tank that boss, but where's the fun in that?

Actually in my first run in Forge some guildies and I just walked through everything. We never stopped DPS and never kited a boss. My second jaunt was with a PuG and I think I personally killed 2 of our group members on Devourer. (Kill Shot while Mirrored was FUN!)

Yeah, unfortunately, not using diseases on my DK severely gimps my TpS, DpS and magical DpS, so it isn't really an option considering this fight is all about burst between MS casts.

I just remind a healer that there's not much I can do about it, and ask that they try and throw a HoT or something on them. (My diseases tic for 500-600, btw, plus 10% of them cause additional 300-400 hits).

Sucks.

I guess my gear sucks enough to this boss not being an issue (Tyrannus, however, is another story).

Even with Rake and Rip ticking away the mirrored guy never dropped below 50%. I know because it was me.

Exactly. Rip and Rake aren't any worse than priests or locks putting on their stuff, and DBM's "Stop DPS" should be more like "Reduce DPS"

The healer simply needs to be aware of who is being mirrored and apply some extra healing to that person for the time being. DPS needs to REDUCE their damage as much as they can. ALL Need to avoid standing in beams or goo. Anybody who can should be using every way possible to interrupt the Phantom Blast. If you're being mirrored, it's a perfect time to use Barkskin, Shamanistic Rage, Cloak of Shadows, Dispersion, or whatever damage-reducing spells and talents you got.

Even as a tank it's a perfect opportunity to be using Omen again. If you're far ahead on threat, you can easily stop your tanking rotation for the time someone is being mirrored and help reducing damage even more.

Tell the healer to QQ more. If he was having a hard time healing then someone else wasn't laying off the continual dps, I promise those bleeds are not enough to cause anyone to have a coronary unless that person is also standing in a voidzone like an idiot.

You'd cause more heartburn with an accidental crit 5pt FB when a mirrored soul starts than the trouble the bleeds cause.

That's not really fair, as it isn't like a group composition including lots of DoTs is unlikely.

DK tank, DK dps, Cat, Afflic Warlock and any Healer.

From my tank, diseases do about 400 DpS, and boost the Lock's many DoTs (which are high DpS). The Cat is putting up his DoTs. The other DK's Dots are gonna be high.

That's pretty huge DpS when you aren't sure as a healer where it is going to go until they are getting hit. And you have to account for the strikes that will get through regardless. Especially with ranged, since there is a delay between them using the ability and it hitting.

Now, if the only DoTs on the target on the target are from a single cat, I'm sure a healer will be fine assuming not too much initial damage before everyone disengages.

But, the more DoT classes you add, healing will get much harder (because your tank is still taking damage in this period as well).

After I wiped on the Devourer with a scrub group from my guild, I checked Recount and posted the info I found.

4 interrupts - by me.
0 by anyone else.

We had a Death Knight, Rogue and Shaman in the group.

Oh, and that was for the entire run.

They might not even be able to control themselves. In a pug PoS two nights ago we'd shot straight through to Tyrannus and had him down below 50% when the rogue got herself locked into Killing Spree simultaneously with getting Branded. She then spent the next 2.5 seconds watching herself kill the tank - or would have if he'd lasted more than one of them.

The second boss? Really? If you can get past MalricMarwyn's AoE fear/16k damage, the second boss should be a breeze. The void zones don't actually do any damage, they apply a stacking curse that increases shadow damage taken the longer you stand in it. In fact, the only party damage should be from a Shared Suffering. It's a magic effect that deals 6k damage every 3 seconds. As long as you're not rockin' 2-3 stacks of the shadow damage debuff and/or 2 stacks + the health debuff, you should be fine. For classes that can dispel magic effects, you may want to leave the DoT up. Dispelling it splits the remaining damage evenly to everyone still alive.

Edit: Yeah, I meant to quote Selebrin, not Maz. Fix't.

Edited, Jan 19th 2010 5:29am by AstarintheDruid

killsinheels look closer to the quoted text there buddy.

"HoR"...