Some help needed on rotations and other misc thingsFollow

Ok, I was reading on elitist jerks to go with Armor Pen, but in my gear I am leaning more towards AGI and hit (to cap poisons - not there yet), I go to use the spreadsheet and my gear is not in there. So since I can't use that I have a few questions.

#1.) I am using a fist/dagger combo 15/51/5. I was reading I should be putting instant on my slower weapon and deadly on my faster one and then envenom and killing spree when there are five stacks of poison. the rotation I found was...

Garrote > Adrenaline Rush > Sinister Strike till you get 5 points > Rupture > Sinister Strike till you get 5 points > Eviscerate, or Envenom if you have 5 deadly poison stacks > Killing Spree > Blade Flurry > Slice and Dice > Sinister Strike till you get 5 points, rinse and repeat till the boss is dead.

-- Does this rotation even seem viable? Before I left it was SS x5, SnD, SS x5, rupture, rinse and repeat (at least if I remember right).

#2.) The website wowconfidential.com says to increase your DPS is by “chaining” your cooldowns, i.e. using them one after another in quick succession, rather than using them all at once, and use your cooldowns as often as you can.

-- If I understad this correctly using AR and BF at the same time defeats the bonus you get from your Cd's. Is this correct or does this guy have false information?

#3.) With the normalization of Armor Pen is it even worth going towards once I get into the T9 gear? Can you still smash faces with the maces?

Any information on this is greatly appreciated.


edited to change AP to armor pen

Edited, Nov 30th 2009 2:12pm by ammerman

I have no clue where you read ATK gems, because when i read EJ it was AGI and when you had T9.5 4 piece and BiS items ArPen. Also as far as i know it's always been Wound MH and DP on you OH. This is for Combats builds ofcourse.

Things haven't changed (in patches) since i last checked. This is max DPS checked with the spreadsheet.

Also keep in mind thats haste related CD's stack. So it's better to use blade flurry when SnD is up. Using KS and adrenaline rush leads to inefficient use of energy.

The way i open is garrote -> KS so DP should be 5 stacks then. 2 X SS, SnD. Adrenaline rush for 5 pt rupture. 5 X SS then 5pts SnD + BF. Refresh rupture, after that i can mostly get 2 sets of 5pts Evisc in there before starting the cycle again. You cycle may depend on your glyph choice.

Where did you read ATK normalization would happen????

Gah! Double post see below :/

Edited, Dec 1st 2009 12:14am by samperor

Still as far as i know it's AGI untill you get the better gear (aka T9+ and BiS items). It also makes it easier to switch to mutilate should you ever want to.

Check out the the difference in poisons on the spreadsheet (just fill in any weapon and just switch the poisons) and target dummies if you have time to waste but i'm pretty sure my poison combo is what should be used.

I'm using the Killing Spree, rupture and SnD glyph. When i checked it, those were the best glyphs DPS wise. Be sure to check that too.

Get some set bonuses asap for your gear, go for T8.5 4 piece (gemmed with agi) untill 3.3 comes out. It's not likely you will see all the raid content before that hits so don't worry about it. T8.5 is good enough. To compare: i'm a semi good raider and i've been using 3 X T8.5 and one T8 for the set bonus and it will hold till 3.3.

Doing 5.5K+ DPS on 10 man probably around 6k+ on 25's. It's plenty for now.

Edited, Nov 30th 2009 11:42pm by samperor

Popping haste with KS is not that good. Popping AR + KS is energy inefficient. Popping BF + SnD + accelerators is sexy!

Don't forget to ToTT your tank before KS. Whenever i forget or it bugs/lags i die because of instant aggro overdose.

Edited, Dec 1st 2009 9:43pm by samperor