A few RL friends and I have rolled a group together. With good communication, we four man instances fairly easily.
Pally Tank
Warrior Tank/DPS
Mage
Tree, Holy Priest - this is me, I switch between them
I have a couple questions about warrior tank mechanics in this environment.
What stats should the warrior favor?
Does he want Kings or Might?
Can I bubble him when he's tanking? Or dps'ing for that matter?
He's thinking of dual-speccing, does he need to go full prot to be an effective off-tank?
I have almost no idea how warriors work, I've never healed a warrior main tank, so I'm just trying to get a feel for how to work with one.
Edited, Nov 16th 2009 9:09pm by Laecy
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Stats for a warrior?
For leveling, Concentrating on Strength, Stamina and Agility are usually all you need to worry about. Agility not so much, but its on the gear. If you find gear with Hit crit or expertise rating, these should be highly considered. DPS and Tanking should be the same gear set for a warrior leveling. Don't worry about defense, just put on a one hand and a shield. Should tank just fine.
Might generally is better for DPS, Kings is better for tanking.
Yes you can bubble the warrior. It doesn't hurt the performance. That got changed a few patches ago. Bubbling them via priest bubble yes, pali, not so much.
He does not in fact need to be full prot, or prot at all to be a good tank tell end game.
Warrior tanking is fairly simple at lower levels, DPS with hate in defensive stance. Don't stand in stuff that hurts. Pay attention to your healers mana. Keep the DPS from being idiots or pulling too much threat (It's a tanks responsibility IMHO to call the shots). Warriors put out hate single target very well. AoE not as well as a pali, but good enough to keep the healer from dieing, and probably keep the dps from pulling agro.
They need to be taking damage to function though. So don't worry too much if you see them taking a bit of damage. They have a few cooldowns they can use to save themselves some pain. And those are for any spec. If they feel like taking prot for more survivability while being able to put out hate, they also gain a nice oh sh*t button.
::EDIT::
Looking at dudes spec for prot. I'd suggest something a little different. But honestly, just sticking all your points in one tree doesn't work well.
I forgot to add this as well; Armor and Stamina work better longer than defense and avoidance. Warriors need to take damage, to gain rage. They don't do enough damage with a sword and board alone to get enough rage. So working in avoidance on top of a solid mitigation is a good route to take. This is in reference to higher end tanking, mostly. But the concept applies universally.
Edited, Nov 17th 2009 6:13pm by devioususer
For leveling, Concentrating on Strength, Stamina and Agility are usually all you need to worry about. Agility not so much, but its on the gear. If you find gear with Hit crit or expertise rating, these should be highly considered. DPS and Tanking should be the same gear set for a warrior leveling. Don't worry about defense, just put on a one hand and a shield. Should tank just fine.
Might generally is better for DPS, Kings is better for tanking.
Yes you can bubble the warrior. It doesn't hurt the performance. That got changed a few patches ago. Bubbling them via priest bubble yes, pali, not so much.
He does not in fact need to be full prot, or prot at all to be a good tank tell end game.
Warrior tanking is fairly simple at lower levels, DPS with hate in defensive stance. Don't stand in stuff that hurts. Pay attention to your healers mana. Keep the DPS from being idiots or pulling too much threat (It's a tanks responsibility IMHO to call the shots). Warriors put out hate single target very well. AoE not as well as a pali, but good enough to keep the healer from dieing, and probably keep the dps from pulling agro.
They need to be taking damage to function though. So don't worry too much if you see them taking a bit of damage. They have a few cooldowns they can use to save themselves some pain. And those are for any spec. If they feel like taking prot for more survivability while being able to put out hate, they also gain a nice oh sh*t button.
::EDIT::
Looking at dudes spec for prot. I'd suggest something a little different. But honestly, just sticking all your points in one tree doesn't work well.
I forgot to add this as well; Armor and Stamina work better longer than defense and avoidance. Warriors need to take damage, to gain rage. They don't do enough damage with a sword and board alone to get enough rage. So working in avoidance on top of a solid mitigation is a good route to take. This is in reference to higher end tanking, mostly. But the concept applies universally.
Edited, Nov 17th 2009 6:13pm by devioususer
With changes to the prot tree in addition to the presence of a prot pally for BoSanc, avoidance is no less desirable for warriors than anyone else, and at least through tier 9, you're better off avoiding the hit altogether than mitigating it.
Which brings to another point for Blessings...BoSanc is the preferred option for tanks because it now gives the same increase to Stamina and Strength that Kings gives, and also gives 3% damage reduction and grants additional rage to the warrior when he avoids/blocks attacks. Generally speaking, for 5-mans you're not going to be using an off-tank. It's just added strain on the healer but at the same time it's not a bad thing to have if things go sideways.
Which brings to another point for Blessings...BoSanc is the preferred option for tanks because it now gives the same increase to Stamina and Strength that Kings gives, and also gives 3% damage reduction and grants additional rage to the warrior when he avoids/blocks attacks. Generally speaking, for 5-mans you're not going to be using an off-tank. It's just added strain on the healer but at the same time it's not a bad thing to have if things go sideways.
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