So, I figured, why not!
I started a hunter. My main has been a paladin since vanilla, and I've never really gotten any of my other characters higher than 72. (Soloing a warrior got boring, so I just maxed enchanting and haven't really looked at leveling with her again, but I digress...)
So, I browsed around and picked up a boar, since I group with my rogue husband 99% of the time, I figured keeping the mob entertained with a boar would help. (Annnd it was the closest one at the time with decent HP and we were eager to keep going...)
Nope.
My pet tends to run as far as he can, aggro anything and everything in sight, and die before he even turns around to attack the mob I sent him after. I've got him set on passive, manually send him in to battle, and I tend to open with concussive shot about half the time just to pull the mob a little bit closer to me before my pet aggros everything else.
Is it the fact that it's a boar - Should I focus on getting something else? I'm level 23 at the moment, and I'd be higher if I didn't have to deal with my pet aggroing entire camps and dying constantly.
Is it the fact that he's low level so he's... stupider? Or am I doing something wrong?
Or does the game's AI just hate me and want me to die several times so I don't feel like I'm doing it right?
Yes, I've played a higher level hunter - I leveled my brother in laws for him for about a month, my account was down and he was getting called into work every day. He needed the hunter for his "uber progression guild, we do $#!& you cant even dream about bud!" and I needed to get away from reality. I went from about 30ish to 80, so I know my way around the class, and I'm comfortable enough to play the way the class should be, and not feel like a complete noob.
This however, stumps me.
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I would tame another pet and check that pet's behaviour.
If it is the same it's likely that you're the one doing something wrong.
If the other pet isn't doing it it's likely a bugged pet.
I know of a story on TKA where a hunter had a wolf who consistently did ~100 dps less than the other pets for no apparent reason.
He tamed a new wolf and the problem went away, but what caused it wasn't found out for all I know.
If it is the same it's likely that you're the one doing something wrong.
If the other pet isn't doing it it's likely a bugged pet.
I know of a story on TKA where a hunter had a wolf who consistently did ~100 dps less than the other pets for no apparent reason.
He tamed a new wolf and the problem went away, but what caused it wasn't found out for all I know.
Picked up a bear. Still does it. I think WoW just doesn't want me having a hunter. Either that or Jebus hates me T.T
I think I've had what you're describing happen once or twice (not for a long time, though). Try leaving him on Defensive, send him after the mob, once he picks up that mob and starts running away hit Follow. That should get him running back to you, and Defensive mode will kick in and have him start attacking the mob as soon as it hits him again, before he gets all the way back to you.
That works :D
It's another couple of buttons, but at this level it's not like I really have many at this point.
It's another couple of buttons, but at this level it's not like I really have many at this point.
Pathing errors were the bane of my existence when I was leveling my hunter. Fixed once I learned charge.
IDrownFish wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
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I find every now and then i get the same pathing errors when trying to use Passive and so never use it unless i have to . What i do is what many hate doing and i use aggressive which does a sort of similar behaviour to what you described as i prefer a little excitement in not fully being sure what my pets will do next but even that does bug out sometimes with the pet standing still instead of attacking a mob .
I guess the best bet is defensive as that tends to bug out less than the others , my guess is you will get used to spotting when your pet gets bugged and i find changing from whatever mode you set your pet in and then changing back usually sorts it out.
I guess the best bet is defensive as that tends to bug out less than the others , my guess is you will get used to spotting when your pet gets bugged and i find changing from whatever mode you set your pet in and then changing back usually sorts it out.
sandralover wrote:
I find every now and then i get the same pathing errors when trying to use Passive and so never use it unless i have to . What i do is what many hate doing and i use aggressive which does a sort of similar behaviour to what you described as i prefer a little excitement in not fully being sure what my pets will do next but even that does bug out sometimes with the pet standing still instead of attacking a mob .
Wait.
You hate pathing errors where your pet behaves aggressively so you leave your pet on aggressive all the time?
Wut.
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Posted: Nov 15 2009 at 2:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Now you are trying to put words into my mouth , please get it right .
Not that this should be happening all the time but...
I know there are many times when I sent my pet in and it gains aggro there will be a long distance covered where the pet and mob just run at random. I think it may have a few different causes, but none that are confirmed so take this as you will.
1) pet positioning- the patch that made pets attack from behind caused all sorts of pathing errors depending on terrain, I think some of those errors are still in place
2) cower- the aggro bouncing caused by the cower bug (that is supposed to be fixed but still seems to creep in here and there) causes the mob to readjust from you to your pet to you, and leads to problems covered in 1. You pet is trying to attack from behind, mob is adjusting, the dance starts.
3) bugged pets- I have had pets that just didn't path or attack correctly. Why? who knows, Aeth's suggestion of re-tame is a great one, it fixed most of the problems I encountered.
But, just as an FYI, there are mobs that seem to patch weird with your pet (at times). An example of this are the fire elementals for the Sons of Hodir. Every 5th one or so will be buggy for me, although I am normally using the spirit-wolf, now untamable. Maybe it is just mechanics with my wolf (who was summoned by a npc then tamed by me) since his origins are from a spell.
I know there are many times when I sent my pet in and it gains aggro there will be a long distance covered where the pet and mob just run at random. I think it may have a few different causes, but none that are confirmed so take this as you will.
1) pet positioning- the patch that made pets attack from behind caused all sorts of pathing errors depending on terrain, I think some of those errors are still in place
2) cower- the aggro bouncing caused by the cower bug (that is supposed to be fixed but still seems to creep in here and there) causes the mob to readjust from you to your pet to you, and leads to problems covered in 1. You pet is trying to attack from behind, mob is adjusting, the dance starts.
3) bugged pets- I have had pets that just didn't path or attack correctly. Why? who knows, Aeth's suggestion of re-tame is a great one, it fixed most of the problems I encountered.
But, just as an FYI, there are mobs that seem to patch weird with your pet (at times). An example of this are the fire elementals for the Sons of Hodir. Every 5th one or so will be buggy for me, although I am normally using the spirit-wolf, now untamable. Maybe it is just mechanics with my wolf (who was summoned by a npc then tamed by me) since his origins are from a spell.
AI pathing in general is just messy anymore. Even with mobs attacking players...I can't count the number of times I've been tanking a pack of mobs and all of them are just fine in front of me, and suddenly one randomly decides to move behind me (which is bad for a tank, can't avoid hits from behind). Tanks learn to use terrain to force things to go where they want them, though I recognize hunters don't necessarily have that luxury (or care, for that matter).
browningguns wrote:
Not that this should be happening all the time but...
I know there are many times when I sent my pet in and it gains aggro there will be a long distance covered where the pet and mob just run at random. I think it may have a few different causes, but none that are confirmed so take this as you will.
1) pet positioning- the patch that made pets attack from behind caused all sorts of pathing errors depending on terrain, I think some of those errors are still in place
I know there are many times when I sent my pet in and it gains aggro there will be a long distance covered where the pet and mob just run at random. I think it may have a few different causes, but none that are confirmed so take this as you will.
1) pet positioning- the patch that made pets attack from behind caused all sorts of pathing errors depending on terrain, I think some of those errors are still in place
I have this type of thing happen once or twice an evening. I'm in the general camp thinking that the mob is trying to get position (behind?) on my boar, my boar adjusts so that it doesn't happen, and some pathing error caused by terrain causes them both to move a little, at which time the dance starts again. The net result is that they both run, attached at the hip, 20-40 yards in some random direction before settling down.
It's not tied to him being passive, either - I always quest in defensive unless I need to pull one mob away from a patrol area.
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The net result is that they both run, attached at the hip, 20-40 yards in some random direction before settling down.
I do not mind when that happens as i just recall my pet and that usually stops it and at least the mob ends up closer to where i want it to be .
My pets will sometimes move the target around for no reason also, which is annoying when I'm using Volley. I don't know why it happens sometimes, and it didn't use to happen at all. I remember it started right after a major patch. It happens with my Warlock's pets too. Right when they first attack. They just keep going, usually right towards and then past me. Sometimes they go right into other mobs.
Edited, Nov 21st 2009 3:48pm by Minoran
Edited, Nov 21st 2009 3:48pm by Minoran
It's because your pet is trying to get behind the mob and the mob isn't cooperating because it's attacking your pet.
The simple solution is to just two shot the mob.
The simple solution is to just two shot the mob.
I don't get why they haven't made it so the pet will only try if he isn't #1 on the threat table.
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Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Because pet AI is bugged as hell and it's more trouble fixing it than it's worth.
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Because pet AI is bugged as hell and it's more trouble fixing it than it's worth.
I know many of you think i am wrong in keeping my pet as much as possible in aggressive mode but it is more because of the annoying bugs that i find it easier for me . I have got so used to the pet doing some weird things at times on defensive mode that by switching to aggressive mode and learning how to fully control my pets actions i can automatically either recall my pet or re-aim my pet to a better target , the only bug i now "see" at times is the pet decides to stay when i did not tell it to which although annoying at times is easily fixed by switching to either defensive or passive mode for a second . That is why i like it as it has taken out that " hey now what is my pet doing ? " split second stall in my thoughts as i am always expecting my pet to do something weird and not because i want to be different . I just find it easier than wondering if my pet is going to path correctly or when is it going to do something weird .
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