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#1 Nov 07 2009 at 3:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Im not sure about all of you other lock out there but ive gt a habit when im raiding in a pug to inspect al the other locks in the raid to see what kind of gear they have. What ive noticed a couple of time recently is that im see locks with inferior armor to me scoring higher dps.

Take Koralon for instance, more or less a static fight which i will usually do around 5k dps on. I was riaidng with a lock the other day who was doing 6k+ in worse armor than i was in, with the same spec.

I was wondering whether you guys had any idea why this is??? The Destro rotation isnt exactly hard so was wondering if im just missing something.

Heres my armoy if it helps

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Keesha

Thanks for help

Keesha
#2 Nov 07 2009 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
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Payzee wrote:
Im not sure about all of you other lock out there but ive gt a habit when im raiding in a pug to inspect al the other locks in the raid to see what kind of gear they have. What ive noticed a couple of time recently is that im see locks with inferior armor to me scoring higher dps.

Take Koralon for instance, more or less a static fight which i will usually do around 5k dps on. I was riaidng with a lock the other day who was doing 6k+ in worse armor than i was in, with the same spec.

I was wondering whether you guys had any idea why this is??? The Destro rotation isnt exactly hard so was wondering if im just missing something.

Heres my armoy if it helps

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Keesha

Thanks for help

Keesha


If you have a boomkin or spriest you are over hit cap so you can try to fix that. Besides that you should replace your glyph of immolate with glyph of life tap.

To go more in depth are you making sure to follow the priority system as best you can. And the other thing is if there is any movement in a fight the best DPS will minimize this. Because of CD the # of conflags and CB will be roughly equivilant between all locks. What you want to check is the number of incinerates if the other lock is getting vastly more then you, after accounting for haste, then you are either not casting efficiently or you are moving needlessly, either way you need to fix that problem. The other thing is immolate you want to have as close to 100% uptime with out clipping as possible, if you are significantly under 100% uptime or you are clipping its another problem to fix. The other thing is corruption if you are stationary do not cast it only cast when you are moving.

Another thing to look at is rather then comparing DPS compare damage done. If you are doing lower DPS but higher damage done then another caster you are in a good position.
#3 Nov 07 2009 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
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well for starters, you have the wrong meta gem for your spec.. swap to the 21crit 3% crit damage bonus one. that'll instantly be a noticable dps increase.. otherwise gear ways you're fine.. what's your 'rotation' (spell priority, which spells you use when, how often you lifetap etc...'

also your spec is wrong for your hit rating.. you should be this spec 0/13/58 ... for your current spec you actually have the wrong glyph setup too.. for your spec you have to replace immolate glyph with lifetap glyph (and i havent played wow since the change to the lifetap glyph.. with the 40second duration it might even be more beneficial to use it over the immolate glyph for 0/13/58 spec too)



Edited, Nov 7th 2009 5:19am by Jenovaomega
#4 Nov 07 2009 at 6:41 AM Rating: Good
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Jenovaomega wrote:
ou're fine.. what's your 'rotation' (spell priority, which spells you use when, how often you lifetap etc...'

also your spec is wrong for your hit rating.. you should be this spec 0/13/58 ... for your current spec you actually have the wrong glyph setup too.. for your spec you have to replace immolate glyph with lifetap glyph (and i havent played wow since the change to the lifetap glyph.. with the 40second duration it might even be more beneficial to use it over the immolate glyph for 0/13/58 spec too)



Edited, Nov 7th 2009 5:19am by Jenovaomega


Yeah the change of duration to 40 seconds has made life tap take over for the 0/13/58 spec. So I am fairly sure every spec of warlock should be using it now.
#5 Nov 07 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the update :) i was to lazy to do the maths~ lol
#6 Nov 07 2009 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Some good advice for you thus far, but if I may add my two cents...

1. As Jenovaomega already mentioned, get the Chaotic Skyflare Diamond as your meta gem. You'll have to have two blue gems socketed to activate it, but you can use Purified Dreadstones to do this. It isn't so much the 21 crit rating, but the 3% increased damage on your crits helps a lot, especially as a destruction spec.

2. You have a PvP enchant on your shoulders. I am guessing this is a temporary fix until you get your inscription leveled high enough, since you are only Friendly with Sons of Hodir. Either grind rep (or buy it nowadays) with them to get Greater Inscription of the Storm or finish leveling your inscription so you can get your bonus shoulder enchant.

3. Your staff should have Greater Spellpower on it.

4. Again, as mentioned previously, substitute the Glyph of Life Tap for your Glyph of Immolate. Just before a fight begins, use a rank 1 Life Tap to initiate the buff without making your healers work.

5. Most importantly, if you are in a raid again and inspect a warlock that has similar or worse gear and a similar build but ends up with a higher dps, use Recount (or some variation) afterwards to analyze what they did. As Twirdman mentioned, look first to see if they got off significantly more Incinerates than you; this is an indication of too much movement, poor spell prioritization, or inefficient casting. Additionally, I noticed that you have no warlock tier gear, so you have no T9 bonuses. This may contribute to the difference in dps as well, since the other lock may be getting the benefit of the 2p or 4p set bonus.

I think if you start with this it should lead you to getting the most out of your gear and spec.
#7 Nov 07 2009 at 8:22 PM Rating: Good
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All good advice, just going to add a few things.

Watch haste procs, this killed me as I was used to the destro BC build where it was a steady pushing the button. Now you have conflag and trinkets that proc haste randomly. If your pushing buttons at a steady pace your going to end up missing alot of spells. Sometimes your global cooldown will be up near 1.5 seconds and sometimes down at 1 second, sometimes your incinerate will be a 2 second cast and other it will be 1.4 seconds. If your not taking advantage of the 1 second GCD and 1.4 second incinerates your going to end up missing alot of damage.

The other is knowing who you are playing with. I see alot of locks who put up CoE or CoD no matter who is in the group. Remember to check for Unholy death knights and boomkins as they will apply the 13% buff meaning applying CoE is completely pointless. Also check your group for Shadow priests and boomkins as they add the 3% hit debuff. You want to switch gear out accordingly as if your hit capped already and a boomkin is in the raid you now have around 75 hit that is worthless and can be switched out for different gear with more haste or crit. It goes the other way as well, I see quite a few pug locks that end up missing as they are geared to be hit capped with a s-priest or boomkin but if the pug doesn't have one then they end up missing 3% hit. That conflag or immolate missing can be horrible.
#8 Nov 11 2009 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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Regarding the benefits of hit from other classes, remember that there is a chance they might die and you will end up not having enough hit.

On progression fights with your guildies, where if you end up with one dps down, then the rest of the group is likely to wipe or hit enrage anyway, then yes, it makes sense to always optimally gear yourself.
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