Devastate , what's it for!?Follow

I dont know where you got the idea that Devastate doesn't cause threat. It does damage, so it causes threat. Quite a bit actually. It also stacks the Sunder Armor effect, which in turn increases the damage and with that the threat of all your other abilities short of Thunderclap and Shockwave.

Devastate replaces Sunder Armor for a Prot Warrior, the same way Mangle replaces Claw for a feral druid.

Extensive use of Devastate by yours truly shows that it is the most awesome talent you get at any point in Warrior history only perhaps exceeded by Bladestorm when looking at the Lulz Factor.

Devastate applies Sunder Armor to your target and deals some damage. The more Sunder Armor you have on your target (max of 5), the more damage Devastate does. With the glyph for Devastate, it applies double Sunder Armor per hit, meaning you need less hits to apply a full stack of Sunder Armor. With the Sunder Armor glyph, Devastate will apply Sunder Armor to your target and a nearby enemy, though it will still only deal damage to your target.

If you shuffle targets and spam Devastate, you will notice that eventually everthing has a full stack of Sunder Armor (-20% armor) and even more extensive testing by yours truly shows that a group of mobs with reduced armor is just great when you have Shockwave.

Kanngarnix, all my testing seems to point to Shockwave being physical damage and as such gets benefit from Sunder Armor. Is this wrong?

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Quick Question... since (gylphed) it applies 2 stacks of SA does that mean that is causes twice the threat? logic says yes but blizz has rarely be a logical entity.

devastate will cause threat from damage and from the sunder it applies. Once you have 5 stacks of sunder on the mob, you will no longer gain threat from applying sunder to the target, from devastate. You WILL get the threat from the damage that devastate causes.

Tests that i've seen show that devastate will actually out threat shield slam, until it is no longer receiving threat from the application of sunder.

the Sunder Armor glyph also works with devastate, applying a sunder armor to a mob standing next to your target.

Sunder after 5x sunders still gives threat, so does devastate.

ok, my understanding of the way Devastate applies threat, was incorrect.

devastate does not apply threat as DevDamage + Sunder Armor = total threat. typically, last rank sunders will do 345+5%AP threat.

when sunder armor is applied as part of the devastate attack, the formula comes out to DevDamage+5%AP (10%AP if glyph'd)

sorry if i caused any confusion, just trying to hash this out like everyone else. :)

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I think you're going off of old info, from before they buffed Devastate. Most tanks in ICC right now get more TPS from Devastate than from Revenge. Revenge definitely does more dmg per rage, but Rage starvation isn't a huge issue when you're tanking a new raid. As far as Thunderclap goes ... no, just no.