Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Help me be a better moonchickenFollow

#1 Oct 26 2009 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
**
608 posts
Yes, I could use some help. I've noticed recently my dps doesn't feel up to par with other critchickens in similiar gear so I come to ask you for some help.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&n=Moonshaker That's me (I know I'm wearing the healing 10 man helm >_> it was better than my old T8 hat going to replace it as soon as I get another trophy)

I start out with Moonfire then Insect Swarm then first time application of Faerie Fire pop Starfall and start spamming Starfire until Solar Eclipse procs then spam Wrath and go back and forth and reapply Moonfire and Insect Swarm at the end of each Eclipse.

Here is a parse from this pasts weeks raid http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-2jadc620sum43dzn/fights/

Any help would be appreciated.

____________________________
Content Manager
torhead.com | teratome.com | twitter.com/fewyn
#2 Oct 26 2009 at 2:25 PM Rating: Excellent
***
3,272 posts
Ok. This might go pretty in depth by fewyn I trust you know what I'm talking about here.

Some slight mix/max things here to look at.

Take one point from Nature's Reach and put it into Improved Insect Swarm. Reasoning behind doing this is as follows. Range is HARDLY an issue in TOC right now, its rather confined and nothing should be ranged out from you except for the following. Icehowl crashes, faction champs if you're cycloning (you've got gale winds for that 4 yards though), anub if you for some reason get caught in the back away from him when he emerges.

Looking at the switch you'll net the following.

1% more damage on your wrath. During eclipse with your 2 piece t8 you should be critting wrath from 7000 upwards to 12,000. You're pushing another 70 - 120 damage per wrath, minimal yes, but according to your parse on Jarraxus you did 468,927 wrath damage X 0.01 = 4689.27 damage. It's a dps increase, minimal, but its a dps increase.

You've also got to look at your 1% increase in starfire crit chance. This like before, seems minimal but it really helps out in those rare chances that the rng fails miserably on the end of your lunar eclipse to push you into solar. Sometimes 1% means the difference between an extra cast and less uptime, or one less cast and more uptime.

Ok, now to move into your rotation.

I've found the best possible way to start the fight is this.

Target the boss, most bosses in toc have some form of start up. Figure out the time via dbm that the initial aggro starts. Queue up Force of Nature, about one gcd before the boss starts drop them right next to the boss. During that gcd start spamming FF. Reason I always go FF first is that you're not hit capped w/o it being up first. This means if you lead with IS/MF you could possibly miss and waste a gcd.

My general opening is this.

Treants > FF > MF > IS > Starfall

I get starfall up immediately to start procing my Nature's Grace to get my wrath casts going. Usually its one to three wrath casts and I'm up into Lunar already.

When it comes to my dots, the rule of not refreshing in eclipse is gone. Dots push up entirely way too much of your damage and having them up at all times means more buffs to the crit/damage of starfire and wrath. So do not hesitate to refresh your dots in the middle of eclipse. Just DO NOT refresh when they still have time left over. Clipping dots is bad and will result in a dps loss. I always let them fall off my target and then immediately reapply, just keep a watchful eye on squawkandawe.

Now that I said squawkandawe, I'm like 100% sure you have the addon but anyway I'm gonna say it for anyone who might be looking. Get squawkandawe and also wiseeclipse. I'm also sure you have this addon as well but I'm gonna explain both.

SQ&A - Tracks eclipse, MF, IS, FF, Innervate, Treants and your Trinkets.
Wiseeclipse - If you are casting starfire at the end of your lunar eclipse and you're SF cast time is more than the time left on the eclipse proc it will automatically cancel the eclipse buff allowing you to enter into solar faster.

You need higher uptime on your dots. Refreshing during eclipse will help this problem entirely.

Going back to the jarraxus parse your uptime for IS and MF is as follows seconds in uptime/length of fight in seconds.

MF - 198/233 - 84% uptime
IS - 171/233 - 73% uptime

MF is good, but could be improved, IS needs to be up over 80. Ideally 90% uptime on your dots is what you shoot for.

Get your tailoring up, lightweave proc will only help. Honestly that should be your first and most important thing to do.

You definately need more gear with crit on it. Don't be afraid to hover around 400 haste or a little below it. I try to keep it a rule when I'm min/maxing Arex that 400 haste is my goal, as near to it as possible w/o absolutely nerfing my other stats.

I'm not sure about your situational awareness but one thing I did with my placement of squawkandawe to increase my situational awareness and make it easier to not be scanning your screen is to place squawkandawe next to your character. Much like you see here.

As far as I can see you're entirely on the right track. Perhaps just go hit some practice dummies and run through about 10 mana bars practicing your rotations. I've always been a firm believer in the fact that the more you improve your muscle memory in your hands to easier it will be transitioning into raids when you've got to move and remember to hit buttons.

I think I covered the most of what I can cover. I hope what I tossed up here will help you out.
#3 Oct 27 2009 at 12:32 AM Rating: Decent
***
1,239 posts
Very informative post Arex. BTW, I love your UI.
#4 Oct 27 2009 at 1:18 AM Rating: Good
****
7,732 posts
Arex....

Sticky.....

.....

:)

Its pau except the Boomkin stuffs.

I'm waiting....
____________________________
Hellbanned

idiggory wrote:
Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
#5 Oct 27 2009 at 3:03 AM Rating: Excellent
*
140 posts
Awesome post as always Arex and as Horse said do the sticky :)

I keep threatening to have a go at boomkin but I have zero gear so I would need to pick up everything and I need to clean out my bank so that I can stick one of my gear sets in to make room in my bags :)
#6 Oct 27 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
Horsemouth wrote:
Arex....

Sticky.....

.....

:)

Its pau except the Boomkin stuffs.

I'm waiting....


pau? Smiley: dubious
#7 Oct 27 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
13,666 posts
Quote:
pau? Smiley: dubious


Gotta luv hawaiians.

pidgin: means finished, complete, etc :-)

Try marry one, it only gets better. ;-)
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#8 Oct 28 2009 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
***
3,114 posts
The One and Only ArexLovesPie wrote:

Wiseeclipse - If you are casting starfire at the end of your lunar eclipse and you're SF cast time is more than the time left on the eclipse proc it will automatically cancel the eclipse buff allowing you to enter into solar faster.


Is that even necessary? Each one has it's own cooldown, just they can't be active at the same time, and if the cast is longer than the remaining time on Eclipse, the buff will be gone when the spell goes off, allowing the alternate Eclipse to go.
#9 Oct 28 2009 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
***
3,272 posts
It works with the lag you have between your pc/laptop with the server to cancel the buff just as starfire hits for a crit, and then puts you into lunar immediately.

Thats why you want it.
#10 Oct 29 2009 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
***
3,114 posts
Ohhhhhh, wow. Okay, that is cool.
#11 Oct 29 2009 at 4:52 AM Rating: Good
****
7,732 posts
Tonight in EoE10 on my priest a feral druid was using Moonfire during P2. I told the raid that there were actually people on the moon that shot the lasers.
____________________________
Hellbanned

idiggory wrote:
Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
#12 Oct 29 2009 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
Ghost in the Machine
Avatar
******
36,443 posts
Horsemouth wrote:
Tonight in EoE10 on my priest a feral druid was using Moonfire during P2. I told the raid that there were actually people on the moon that shot the lasers.


Haven't you seen the animation? It's not a laser on the moon, unless the moon shrunk all of a sudden. It's a miniature Death Star that decloaks and fires a precision death beam at your targets.

Sheesh, get your facts straight, man. Smiley: wink
____________________________
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#13 Oct 29 2009 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
Muggle@#%^er
******
20,024 posts
Now that that has been answered, riddle me this...

How many names does the moonkin have?
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#14 Oct 30 2009 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
***
3,114 posts
idiggory wrote:
Now that that has been answered, riddle me this...

How many names does the moonkin have?


Moonkin, Oomkin, boomkin, Panzerkin, Laserchicken, chicken, Moonchicken...
#15 Oct 30 2009 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
Critchicken, Dinner...
#16 Oct 30 2009 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
Battle Turkey

#17 Oct 31 2009 at 12:37 AM Rating: Excellent
****
7,732 posts
I mooned a chicken once.





I still have the scars.
____________________________
Hellbanned

idiggory wrote:
Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 198 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (198)