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Not doing anything differently than i would, if I see any of the threat bars turn yellow I switch targets to it so it gets the next maul but otherwise every GCD is going to swipe spam. Could get the Venture Coin idol to bolster swipe a little bit but that's about it...if I see a few mobs get off I'll blow challenging roar, if just one gets off I'll growl and let the mauls hold it.

Anytime I get that ret pally or arms warrior who blows storm right at the getgo I let them die though. It's suicidal and they should learn not to do it.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2009 2:12pm by Norellicus

You need a better weapon. Threat is highly weapon based.

As the rest of my guild was getting weapons and loot in Uld, I was not getting much stuff do to the RNG hating me. I have a huge EPGP lead because of this though, as in I could win every drop for a week and still be on top of the list.

RNG aside until I got Fordragon DPS was having to hold back. Where as when we were all more similarly geared they didn't have to at all. After getting the new weapon the issue vanished instantly and Swipe+Maul spam puts out enough threat to hold back insta-Skillstorm and AoE happy mages.

JE from KT25 would help, the Fordragon off Anub10 would as well. All the good weapons in Uld are either hard modes or in the 25 man version so not as PuGable as Naxx25 and ToC10.

Yeah, but I'm nowhere near tanking any of that serious stuff yet. I'm hoping Marrowstrike will drop during one of the H-ToC runs. And I'm hoping I'm not grouped with a Hunter, Paladin, Death Knight or Warrior who might want it as well, since I only do that place with my healing spec.



Threat bars? Where do I get such nifty features? My tooltip displays threat percentage and I get those "Changed target" and "Attacking you" pop-ups once in a while, but I haven't noticed threat bars. I usually rely on Omen and Tab to keep me covered.

**** that. My other spec is tanking, I'm rolling on the weapon. "offspec" doesn't really apply anymore imo since it doesn't require spending gold to switch.



I don't think I had to set any option to see this, but if you turn on enemy health bars ('v' key by default) there's a little aura effect around them used to indicate aggro. Red means they're targeting you and you have aggro lead, yellow means someone not-you is approaching the threshold, no aura means you aren't being targeted and aren't anywhere close to the top of the threat list. Using Growl on a mob that gets loose instantly turns the aura yellow and then it'll turn red on your next threat offload.

Been using it since chocolate, it's great.

I was stuck with OoN until Fordragon blades finally dropped for me in ToC 10. My biggest problem with threat was always when DPS would focus on the target I wasn't hitting with maul. Other than that, swipe seems to work really well. I actually like it better than Consecrate because, if I have to move, my AoE moves with me.

I doubt they will change maul. Even if they lower the damage across the board to make it hit 3-4 targets, it would still be a crapton of damage. I'm already doing 3-4.5k dps on trash groups of 3 or more with just maul/swipe spam. And that's in tank gear, in tank spec. Hell I hit 5k on those little ghoul groups that jump all around in packs of 5-6 in Old Kingdom.

I did a bad thing on Ony 25 this weekend. When all the welps came out the first time, I dropped a 5 CP SR, hit rake, popped TF and Berserk, and started Swiping. A lot. There may have been a Hysteria involved...

Poor paly didn't have a chance to keep them off me.

I realize I need a better weapon and currently I'm aiming for Marrowstrike (so many runs and not a single drop yet).

My guild doesn't do 25-mans yet. We simply can't get enough people on to not PUG it and most of us aren't comfortable with that. So we Naxx10, Ony10, ToC10 and all that other juicy stuff (some of them are getting their hands on Uld10 as well, but not the core of the guild yet).

Is Fordragon Blades worth rolling against a DPS for, though? I think we've got one Feral Druid who's DPS at the moment. Don't remember if he got the blades last run (they dropped) or whatever happened.

Anyway, I'm gearing up still. Got me the T8 chest and some leggings and stuff. I just need to upgrade my gloves (but the emblem gloves lack a socket, waah) and some of my PvP gear. Still haven't found better alternatives to the PvP shoulders, though. Sure, there are stuff out there with more agility and expertise, but once I've got the epic gloves, I'm expertise capped (it's 6.5%, right?) and soon hit capped as well. My dodge rating is sitting on 40% or so with Kings or Horn of Winter. My health, self-buffed is just about 36k, I believe. 28k armor and 40% crit chance with 4300ish attack power in Bear form.

I'm a little unsure about my talent build, though. I see a lot of Feral tanks with Natural Shapeshifter and Master Shapeshifter instead of Infected Wounds and Feral Aggression (3/5).

I mostly do heroics at the moment which is why I picked up Infected Wounds. Is it worth three points, though? I'm guessing people dump Feral Aggression because they have a Retribution Paladin with Vindication in their raid. I guess you could dump Infected Wounds if you run with a Death Knight or a DPS Feral with it.

Meh, I don't know. This is my build and this is what I'm considering changing to.

Looks like I'll see if I can get my hands on Whatever-Thunderstrike then.

Dangit, now I've got to put on AC/DC and remember the old days of MC raiding (like, last week or whenever it was).

Or if your feral DPS guildie wants Reclaimed Shadowstrike but doesn't want Reclaimed Thunderstrike then ask him/her to pass Reclaimed Shadowstrike to you so you can create Reclaimed Thunderstrike and pass the original one back. This is because only the one that you loot can be traded, the created one you can't (from what I have read on wowhead) as it is automatically bound to the person who does so.

Edited, Oct 28th 2009 5:31am by KevMc

If I had to guess I'd say that was what they intended to happen, but right now it doesn't do that. That probably causes all kinds of problems with enchantments anyway...