Soloing Heroics/Raids?(BC)Follow

There's other factors other than "how hard is a dungeon?"

Keep in mind that Paladins are Spellcasters and Most of what we do can be blocked by Silence, so any mob that regularly silences you is going to be something that is going to be _very_ freaking hard to kill.

Also, be on the lookout for Spell Interrupt mobs, like those found in Shadow Tombs. While fighting these mobs, your only healing option is Lay on Hands, or using your Bubble to Bubble-heal. Hopefully you down the said mobs out of the trash pack first, and do so successfully before you require another heal.

Ret vs Prot...

That's an open debate, best thing to do, is to have both gears and specs on you and ready (though this will reduce your carry capacity and/or present a danger of accidentally selling something you don't want to if you're not careful). Some fights may be easier as Ret, while others may take too long even with Ret's higher damage output. Some fights may involve taking way too much damage, so you may want to switch to Prot, where you basically cannot die if you can regenerate your mana faster than they can spend it.

The longer a fight takes, the more chance that Prot will help you more than Ret. Fights that feature mobs that do mostly magic damage (like Shade of Aran) will be much easier as Ret, as are pulls that involve fewer mobs (like the sentry robots in the TK instances). More Mobs = More Mana Return in Prot. If you're only fighting 1 mob, your mana return is going to kinda suck.

As to how far a Paladin can solo? They should be able to solo most BC Heroics, though I'd think Shadow Labs could be a problem with those stupid rogues, though you could try and do a suicide pull as your Ret setup, get the rogues down, come back and then kill the rest. Otherwise, Slabs is a fairly easy dungeon. Half of the instance revolves around MC, which is impossible if you're solo. As for BC Raids, I couldn't forsee a Paladin going much further than Curator in Karazhan.... Chess is outright impossible solo (but can be skipped IIRC?), those mobs just before the final staircases hurt-a-plenty, even with fairly decent gear, they can chew you up badly. The damage they deal is simply horrendous. Curator himself would be difficult, I'd think.. you'd have to burn those adds down fairly quickly. The room right after Curator would be a freaking nightmare; you have nothing but Auto-attack in there if something aggros you, as those wyrms are immune to holy (and everything else too). Aran would be cakewalk I'd think, depending on how much damage he actually does with his normal spells (the specialities should be easy as pie to avoid with just you being there).

Netherspite would be nigh-impossible, only one person to block the healing beam.... I don't forsee that being possible. Thankfully, he's skippable. Who else is after Curator...? Um... the demons.... pfft, wimps. He's optional anyways. The Prince Himself shouldn't be hard; he never 1HP's the main guy on his threat list, so you'd never get hit with that, tank him in the traditional spot and it shouldn't be a problem.

As to ZA and such, I dunno how hard that would be to solo. Maybe the first boss or two? Not sure, I don't have a lot of experience with that.

Now is Kara a harder, or easier raid? I heard SWP is among the hardest BC(if not the hardest) but I don't know any BC raids really. I was screwed into trying FFXI when it came, rather than WoW. I for all intents and purposes, started a month before WotLK or so. I did Halloween, nothing prior.

T4 is kara(10), gruuls, and Mag.
T4.5 ZA(10)
T5 TK:the eye, SSC.
T6: MH BT.
T6.5 SWP.

All are 25 except those marked 10.

The last boss of Underbog can be difficult with 2 people, but easily solo-able with 1.

If the 2nd person cannot handle the boss's attacks while he throws the tank up into the air, he could kill the 2nd person and then reset to full health while the tank is up in the air, since he cannot attack you while you're up in the air, that counts as a reset.

Thus, it is better to make sure the 2nd person doesn't participate in the fight and have them stand back, OR, have them die intentionally and lay there dead while the "tank" solos him. The 2nd option will still give credit/achievements for the dead, dunno about the first option.

Botanica's boss is easily; a Consecrate will easily take care of the trees, as would your HotRs and Avenger's Shield.

Slabs, you want to watch out for Mind Control and kill/interrupt the summoners first.

I know you said Heroics, but you will also want to watch out for Moroes if you decide to add Karazhan to the list. Soloing him is one thing, but if you bring another person, they need to be able to withstand their attacks for 5 seconds, OR, have them die intentionally and then solo him. When he gouges the tank, everything goes after the 2nd person and will likely kill them unless they are a tank too.

Now you've got me wondering how an Enhance Shaman's Spirit Wolves would hold up--they have that nifty AoE taunt ability, and a fair amount of health. Hmm... *plots*

Ideal setup IMO would be dual spec'd/geared character with prot main spec/ret off spec. I'd probably be ret for most heroic pulls and even bosses, going prot for the harder hitting types. I'd probably be ret for most or all of heroic MgT just because there are so many annoying casters who won't melee you, so you may wind up mana starved with not enough DPS to kill them quickly.

Could try some of the easier bosses in kara, especially Attumen (sp?) for a chance at the mount. Also ZG for a chance at mount(s) and polymorph: turtle.

What did you make most of the gold from?

Gehennas(the healing debuff if 75%) was INSANE. I ended the fight with ~3% hp/mp. Did NOT have LoH for this fight though(used it on Puppy boss. Ended up with him AND a pack of Core Hounds. Not easy.)
What I did was ran in with Avenging Wrath, Seal of Command, stomped his adds. Tossed on Seal/Judge of Light. Ran in circles, nonstop, melee/judge/DStorm/Exorcism. I avoided Consecrate due to Mana.
Kept Sacred Shield up at ALL times and popped every FoL that became instant for double HoT.
Ended up with a Hound add at ~100k left on boss, but I just circled and killed boss, then add. Had to pop DShield and "TRY" to heal to full.

Baron was a ******* but easy enough if you back into the tunnel. I just used Seal of Vengeance(straight up DPS) with JoWisdom(mana) and just tossed heals every fall. I popped DShield on one when I had a bad string of noncrit FoL.

Sulfuron Harbinger (The one with 4 adds) was awesome. I thought I was gonna spend the "estimated" 9 minutes of waiting on them to OOM. No dice. I popped AW with Seal of Command and burned one down instantly. After that, every AW CD, I popped it, killed an add. When only 1 add and boss were left, I stunned his heal and killed him without, then downed boss. Never even got hurt. No LoH/Shield.

Majordomo Executus(8 adds, 4 healers 4 DPS) I just Repentance'd a healer(1min stun) then went to town, 1 healer at a time (I marked them to know who to kill) then the DPS, then the boss. Never dipped under 50% hp. No shield, no LoH.

Rag was a joke. SADLY I had to blow LoH but that was because I was dumb. I lined up wrong, THREE TIMES and took fall damage then a fireball to the face. The last one I hit 105hp. LoH'd, lined up with Lava, sat and roflstomped.
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Since then I ran into Kara and solo'd Attunemen for fun. Complete joke. I accidently ran RIGHT to him, not familiar with the fight. He summoned about 10? Maybe 8, Skeletal horses which stacked a -stam buff. Fortunately I was smart enough to be Prot and I just yawned and downed them all. No mount.

Ran into ZG, roflstomped both bosses in ~30sec each.



As for most gold, Molten Core took like, 4 hours BUT I got a TON of gold.
Fiery Core = 60g
Lava Core = 40g
Illusion Dust(from DE'ing Greens that I sent to my Mage) = 2g each

I also gained SEVEN BoE purples. All of which "supposedly" go for ~600g each. I doubt they will sell but if they do...

AQ20 was the most fun, ever. The gold was "ok".

Technically the best gold per hour, was trio'ing Magtheridon's Lair. Prot Pally(friend, horribly geared) me as Ret, and a Druid. I WANTED a War or Hunter for Mortal Strike but we found out something better.
I was COMPLETELY unable to down the adds no matter how far I ran them, they healed him up.

So I said ***** it, charged boss, DPS'd him with ALL adds up.
Downed him.
169g per person.

Also just ran Heroic Durnholde/Black Morass, as Ret(pfft, who needs a tank?) which was INFINITELY easier with new glyphs. I bought Seal of Command (8% total mana on Judgement of Command, which is 18% mana total per judgement.. awesome) and the AMAZING Divine Storm(15% damage healed, which is 40% damage healed and in groups of 4, that's 8k heals or higher).

About to try out H Shadow Labs.

*EDIT*

Forgot to add a MASSIVE boost to how I survived.

Runescroll of Fortitude
Drums of Forgotten Kings
Drums of the Wild

This gave me a HUGE boost to HP (165stam, 10% stam/str/int, 37 stam/str/int, 750 armor, 54 to all Resistances.
I also kept proper Auras up.

Shadow Resist Aura for Gehennas, Fire Resist for all trash and fire bosses. Prot Aura for melee bosses.

Edited, Nov 5th 2009 11:25am by SarionBelmont

Yeah, he didn't drop for me. I was sad. I'm a Blacksmith too.

I just knocked out all of Auchindoun minus Mana Tombs. Doing that in a few min. Shadow Labs wasn't too bad, only died on the last boss area due to my lack of knowledge in the area. Summoners didn't die, they summoned like 200 mobs and just overpowered me.

My fear comes from TK places. Those instances are... odd and I refuse to go Prot! I want to do EVERY OL heroic as Ret.

~DING~

Outland Dungeon Hero :)

I decided I'd be crazy though and re-solo everything and document the results.
Check out my new blog-thing.

I have listed the materials I carry and what I use.

Here's an excerpt:

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The Botanica
Time: 28 Minutes
Items Used: 1 RSoF, 1 DoFK, 1 DotW, 1 FF, 1 SoKings.
Raw Gold: 57.70.59g
Gray Value: 41.41.82g
Blue Value:24.00.89g
Purple Value: 8.19.74g
Total Gold: 131.33.04g
Repairs+Expenses: 2.79.36g+17g+0.15g
Profit: 111.38.68g
Greens: 6
Extra Loot: Netherweave x60, Sunfury Signet x38, Arcane Tome x2, Super Mana Potion x2, Super Healing Potion, Bottled Nethergon Energy x6, Bottled Nethergon Vapor x12, Primal Nether.

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The abbreviations in Items Used are Runescroll of Fortitude, Drums of the Forgotten Kings, Drums of the Wild, Fish Feast, and Symbol of Kings.

Fun stuff! I currently have all of Coilfang Reservoir and Tempest Keep done in such format. I need to re-solo Auchindoun and Hellfire Citadel for this. Then I'll document things like ZG, MC, and AQ20. Yes, I have WAYYYYY too much time on my hands.