Interesting new PvP spec: ProtributionFollow

Touched by the Light now converts strength into spellpower. If you were to say, equip a lot of very high strength ret gear, and spec into prot for the +% str talents and defensive stuff, what would be the result?

You will get enormous crits with HotR and SoR, that's what. Replace your 2hander with a slow high dps one handed weapon, and good shield. Str turns into block value, but it also turns into spellpower, which contributes greatly to the damage of the aforementioned attacks. Spec for seals of the pure, reckoning and so on. Grab a glyph of avenger's shield (AS scales disgustingly well as you will soon find out).

I had some trouble killing healers a ret. You blow crusader strike, judgement and divine storm, and have to wait a few seconds for those to come back. I'm beating them like they committed a crime as protribution. SoR and HotR are both 6 second CDs and they hit much much harder than crusader strike. And they are pure, unmitigated holy damage. Avenger's shield glyphed is a ranged attack that silences people (most often permanently). 30 second CD on hammer of justice is always nice too. I really urge you all to try it, if pvp is your thing.

More like 120% of the burst, 85% of rets sustained dps. White hits are much smaller, but your yellow hits are enormous, even on high res targets. You basically rely on the burst to drop something in the AS silence. Gonna try it in something other than BGs later this evening, Fury/Me/Shammy cleave team. Hammer of the righteous is brutal (mainly b/c reckoning and a faster weapon allows blood corruption to stack very fast on a target.)

I'm using all ret pvp and pve gear, except for the weapon and shield, and T9 prot chest and legs. The set bonus makes HotR hit even harder, and the small def value i get from it might allow my shammy to catch me after Ardent Defender procs.

I've tried it too and I have to say it's fun. Even in prot gear you do okay. Unless you get focused it's pretty darn hard to get you down. Switched to my ret gear and I did so some more damage, not that much more from what I could see. Lost a little survivebility from all that defense though. I have only been to WSG thrice and some duels so no conclusions done yet. The crits from your glyphed Avenger's Shield were fun to watch though. :)

I picked up Tempered Vis'kag the Bloodletter off Ony 25 last night.

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49501/tempered-vis-kag-the-bloodletter/

No one else wanted it. I'm totally going to try Protribution with it this weekend. Should be fun when the fatal wound procs for 2222 damage, Wowhead is down so I could not check to see if it crits but I imagine if it does that will be hilarious.

Sorry for being a ninja-priest doing nitpicking here, but unless you're fighting a druid... Isn't it a better idea to throw a burst, *then* silence and hopefully another burst when the silence ends? Silencing a healer before you burst him is generally fairly pointless. Of course it might prevent PW:S or Earth Shield from going up, but most healers won't try to really heal themselves after they've got damaged.

Of course I'm not that big in pallies, but I'm thinking here that a silence would be perfect to weave two bursts together and take advantage off knowing that pallie bursts seem to have cooldowns between 6 and 10 seconds.

before i left the game, i spent 2 months in BGs using my straight PvE spec and Naxx/equiv gear. i tried my Ret gear(both pve and pvp) but it didn't seem to have the balance that my tanking gear had. melee became a joke, flag runners were dead before the tunnel, took 3-4 enemies to get me down. i loved it, this is how i always thought a pally should be played...minus the slight OP.

enjoy it :D

Improved spell reflection + lots of prot warriors = hell for enemy casters!

this is the spec...

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Windrunner&n=Minitanker&group=2

If you ran into a pally with this spec, and an elemental shm, and beat them both...either you're lying, they were near death, or they were way undergeared/morons.

Is the new protribution spec the be-all, end-all? No, but it has a lot more survivability than full ret. With the above mentioned spec, 1v1 vs. dps'ers pose no problem what-so-ever. The only comps that have given me and my healing partner problems are resto druid/MS war. I actually get very excited when the doors open, and I see a ret pally. Basically chalk it up as a win.

The premise behind the spec is getting the most STR you can, and killing your enemy during the lockdown phase. You get a silence with AS, and a nice stun with PoJ. If you can combine a few crits, they're basically dead. If not, just wait till next CD, that usually finishe's them off.

Protribution is gaining some very nice popularity.




Edited, Oct 29th 2009 11:32am by Alwind

Sounds like my old Reckodin build (Reckoning with retribution talents and 2h weapon)

Sorry, need to clarify real quick. Was an elemental shammy and a regular ret pally w/a 2h (not a paladin w/this spec), I think I might've run into a few pallies like this on occasion (so hard to confirm in arenas), but I usually treat any pally w/a 1h/shld in a pvp situation as a holy paladin.

Edited to further clarify what kinda pally it was.

Edited, Nov 1st 2009 12:23pm by shutframe

Has anyone tried using SoC with the glyph? Seems to me like it would help greatly with mana issues. In my hateful and Naxx epics it hits for slightly less than SoV, but I'm not sure if this will translate into a huge dps loss at higher gear levels.