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I played wow for the first time in over a year this week. It felt shallow, every bit of it.

Running around with BT items, leveling up was quite easy, but after about an hour I felt more bored than ever. It seems like they completely killed the challenge aspect of the game, is this true? My friends had hit 80 recently and pugged to almost full tier 8 or better in a matter of 2 weeks, is it really that simple now?

I'm trying to find some new posts with data and so forth, like myself, Zip, Xordon, Devioususer and Jimpadan have debated in the past ages of pre-WotlK, but I'm not seeing much. More proof that the game is this simple?

For all of you that remember me (although it doesn't seem to be many left from the old times), let me know what you guys think. I just got Aion and have been really enjoying it for the last couple of days due to WoW being so watered down now, seemingly. If anyone wants to play together, I'm obviously playing the dps warrior class ;). Either permanently, or until blizzard gets their head straight and makes a game worth playing.

Leveling isn't exactly a challenge.

People say this game is too easy because the simple raids have become easier, but most of these people would fall apart in a hard mode raid. I've seen quite a few overgeared pugs/guilds wearing T8.5 equiv fail to kill Sarth+3 drakes which is a T7.5 test.

If you are "hardcore" there is still hard mode raids...I wouldn't complain about this game being too easy until you've completed them all.

You can buy some tier 8 from vendors now and some tier 7. If he pugged to full tier 8 or better in two weeks then I want to hand him a medal, because I went from being able to do heroics to being able to raid in two weeks, yet, I'm nowhere near decked in tier 8. I have the tier 8 helm and chest piece, plus some emblem pieces for the rest of the outfit. To get the remaining tier 8, I'd have to raid Ulduar and it would probably take more than two weeks to progress that far.

Only if you're in a guild that has hard modes on farm status. I'm guessing the guild didn't go from dinging 80 to dowing hard modes for breakfast within a week of the expansion launch.

Also, your bias is immovable, I'm afraid. If you're bored after an hour of playing, you'll not get back into it.

Edited, Oct 15th 2009 2:43pm by Mazra

Glad I made a positive impression :D

My mind isn't necessarily set in stone, but if they only "achievement" is doing heroic raids, without them being (vastly) different to their regular counterparts... It just doesn't seem worthwhile at all.

It's definitely not as challenging as it used to be man, not even close. I dropped any real semblance of progression raiding this expansion and have been playing very casually with a lot of old friends. If not for the fact that I was playing with them, I'd have quit already. I doubt I'll make it out of this expansion. We've put together our little casual raid crew, but it's funny to me that outside of my circle of close friends on these runs, most of the people on these runs are the ones that had trouble clearing Gruul and Mag in BC. Despite that, we're managing to knock out hard modes in Wrath. It's just a vastly different world, and I find myself bored more often than not because I haven't done much I've found significantly challenging in this expansion, not after Sunwell and whatnot in BC, and then having raided through vanilla.

As for theorycraft...ha. I haven't touched it this expansion, and I was HUGE on it in BC. There's just no reason to. The stats have become way simplified, and there's just not much that needs to be fine tuned anymore.