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#1 Oct 11 2009 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey guys, so I'm coming back to WoW after a pretty decent break, and have decided to level a Rogue! Have never leveled one past 30, and I think it's due time to bring out my inner ninja.

This may have been a mistake, but before I quit WoW, I picked up the two different heirloom daggers...The one from badges and the one from WG marks. Was just thinking I'd be mutilate as soon as I hit 50, and would level great 50-80 with those bad boys, so I picked them up. But moving on to the real question.

I was planning on doing Blacksmithing / Mining on my new Rogue. I'm rolling with a friend, who wants to be a Warrior, who is also new to the game. I figured it'd be cool of me if I could make him weapons all the way up, so that'd be one less thing he had to worry about. Nice of me, right? Well I thought I'd be helping myself too, until I logged on to find I had two heirloom daggers waiting for my Rogue, hahaha. So I'm asking:

Is Blacksmithing worthwhile for a Rogue at all?

I'm only mainly concerned about PvP, so is there any decent PvP daggers I'll be able to make for myself at the cap?

Side question: What profession would you recommend for the best stats for a Rogue, if I shouldn't go Blacksmithing.

Side question #2: Those daggers that I have...should I go ahead and use them even pre-50? Since they'll be blue quality for my level? If I level with daggers pre-50, what spec should I be? O_o

Thanks guys!
#2 Oct 11 2009 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
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IMO, if you have the daggers, you should use them. I would go with a combat daggers spec for leveling, until 50.

As for professions, BS isn't that great for rogues. IIRC, JC/Engineering are the best for pvp, but Enchanting is always good, too.

If you want to help your buddy out, you should just give him a few hundred gold to level with.
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#3 Oct 13 2009 at 11:01 AM Rating: Good
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Take a look at the weapons you can make from blacksmithing that are BOE. The small handful that are worthwhile take insane amounts of materials. Generally speaking you won't get these mats from simply leveling, you'd have to go far, far out of your way to aquire all materials just to make an average weapon that's no better then a random BOE blue. There are maybe 2 exceptions in the 40s/50s, but by that time you're getting close to Outland and the first quest in the zone will give your warrior friend a huge upgrade over whatever he's using (unless somehow he raids some level 60 content and gets a quality epic one..unlikely).


As stated above, to really help your friend gold is a better bet. Buy him a BOE blue weapon every 5 levels, maybe throw fiery weapon enchant on it or something. Or if you have an 80, run him through dungeons. Warriors especially are very gear dependant while leveling, weapon especially. You can get by with less, it's just slow/annoying. Heck you can level through this entire game using nothing but white gear sold from vendors, weapons included. But obviously it's not the smartest thing to do.


Blacksmithing is a good profession at 80 for the bonuses, you can put 2 empty sockets in your gear (bracers and gloves) and use whatever gems you like in there. Which is nice if you want to stack agility, most of the other professions give a static ~80 attack power bonus so at most levels 40 agility (2 epic gems) is slightly better. But that's kind of min/maxing, stuff that gives you +10 dps when you're doing 5000+.


Almost any profession is viable for any spec since they all give bonuses that are near equal. I'd go with herb/alchemy, it's easy to level, makes lots of gold. At 80 if you want to min/max you can eventually drop herbalism for something else. Your friend can go mining/skinning since he's new to the game and this will make him lots of gold which he'll need. Alchemy is probably the easiest crafting profession to level. In Outland I recommend you do the quest to become an elixir master, it helps with making gold at 80. Now that alchemists can make 1 epic gem per day, transmute spec may be viable as well.







edit - you asked about PVP daggers at 80. There is 1 dagger blacksmiths can make, the titansteel shanker. It is BOE, you can have any blacksmith make it for you. And now you can run heroic TOC to get better daggers. I wouldn't bother with blacksmithing. If you're very serious about PVP, level engineering for rocket gloves, but have fun being broke all the time =)

In my opinion, ideal PVP professions for all classes are engineering and blacksmithing. Talk about painful to level. It could easily cost you 7500g to level them at 80. Or countless hours farming your own ore (100 hours?). JC'ing is nearly as good as blacksmithing, but it's almost equally as expensive to level. But I really wouldn't worry about ideal professions until well into high ratings. If you start hitting 2000+ and you think a little extra AP and rocket gloves can take you to the next level, that's when you do it. You don't bother min/maxing just to gank random people in BGs...unless you like having no gathering professions and spending thousands for a slight benefit.

Edited, Oct 13th 2009 1:07pm by mikelolol
#4 Oct 15 2009 at 11:03 AM Rating: Good
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As mentioned, it isn't the best option. If you freind is leveling a warrior, they should get mining/bs on their character since they will get use out of it while leveling with armor and weapons.

Here is a weighted value of each profession on a PvE rogue at 80 from elitistjerks:

Profession EP
* Engineering 80-89 (Mut), 90-99 (Combat)
Jewelcrafting 84+
Blacksmithing 80+
Leatherworking 80
Enchanting 80
Inscription 80
Alchemy 80

Engineeering has star because engieering is based on using bombs as soon as the CD is up. If you don't drop bombs every chance you get for DPS then it is actually rated below the others.
#5 Oct 15 2009 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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AtrophyGFour wrote:
As mentioned, it isn't the best option. If you freind is leveling a warrior, they should get mining/bs skinning on their character since they will get use out of it while leveling with armor and weapons.

Blacksmithing, like most crafting professions, is almost useless for making things as you level. All his friend would do with blacksmithing is suck up all of the ore/bars he would earn from mining, and be doomed to level broke.
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