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#1 Oct 04 2009 at 4:52 AM Rating: Good
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Rawr!

A few blues left and ilevel200 epic dps bracers but overall it's not that bad.
5 emblems to go for my belt, then another 77 for the necklace and T8.5 chest and I'll be able to move on to PvP gear (Oh the joys of farming heroics.. ugh).

I managed to heal every heroic but Oculus and I loved it, the healing that is not the instances themselves.
So far I've found that ToC is the hardest to heal, or rather that it depends on the rest of the group a lot more than other heroics.
I can heal failbots through places like HoL and UP but if people start taking more damage than they should in ToC my mana flows away like water in a desert (The green stuff HURTS move out of it within 30 seconds next time please).
Then again, I ran heroic ToC with a couple alts (including a feral tank with 33k hp buffed) from my guild and the place was a breeze.

I also found that after doing craploads of heroics I became a lot less tolerant of stupidity.
I told the hunter in HoL to eat up because I can't heal stupidity when he got the lightning debuff (damage if you move) and managed to take down 90% of his hp with it while we were fighting a trashpack.

Anyways, I also got myself into a bunch of raids, from being carried through OS10 by a healadin from my guild the first few days to a failed VoA10 (so hey, I can solo heal Koralon for a good minute) because our second healer sucked and died constantly in the first 20 seconds of the fight to healing OS25 without being carried and actually keeping the tanks alive with just a bit of help from the other healers (yay 20 man achievement) and finally friday late night after farming emblems I got to heal Ony10 to help gear up the new member who rolled DK followed by a VoA25 run later that night where I didn't even look that bad on the meters even with me raid healing (and a resto druid on the tanks ><)
To top it all off, I also joined a succes full Ony25 PuG where I lost the roll on the dagger with 90 vs 91 and the winner using an ilevel232 weapon. Smiley: frown

It seems like my priest has zero luck with weapons... I have yet to see one drop in heroic ToC, nexus or one of the wands from AN/AK.

Ulduar10/ToC10 next week and I might just be able to completely skip Naxxramas! Smiley: smile
#2 Oct 04 2009 at 4:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Ulduar10/ToC10 next week and I might just be able to completely skip Naxxramas! Smiley: smile


Ahh there's the difference between you and I. You'll run Naxx if you have to... I'd rather wear blues. Smiley: lol

Grats on all your shinies. :)
#3 Oct 04 2009 at 6:07 AM Rating: Good
Gratz on the success. Keep working those heroics, and do the heroic daily as often as possible. I was pugging the daily (skipped Oculus)a bit and got my Shoulders and Wand from Emblems of Triumph. The badge rewards are really great.

I'm resigned to the fact that I love healing more than anything else. I'm taking my Druid to 80 as resto (questing feral) for a comparison of heal style, and so I'll have another toon to gear up as a project. Since the druid was my bank toon, I'm powerleveling my mage's enchanting, to take his place at the AH.
#4 Oct 04 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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teacake wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Ulduar10/ToC10 next week and I might just be able to completely skip Naxxramas! Smiley: smile


Ahh there's the difference between you and I. You'll run Naxx if you have to... I'd rather wear blues. Smiley: lol

Grats on all your shinies. :)
I doubt my guild would let me heal Uld25 hardmodes in blue gear :(
#5 Oct 04 2009 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I doubt my guild would let me heal Uld25 hardmodes in blue gear :(


You raidy types are galley slaves. Smiley: tongue I could not miss raiding less. Wait a second. There. I missed it a little less.

I love reading all y'all's stories about it though. :)
#6 Oct 04 2009 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
Very nice! I'm on Day5 now with this so far. Hopefully when you view it I'll be back in Disc since my Shadow is AWFUL.

Not as many badges as you but I'm stuck on 2 chars running massive raids THEN going to Priest when possible lol.

As for skipping Naxx, different strokes I guess. I personally AIM for a Naxx run, I'd LOVE to do one. It's a lot more fun than heroics when you run them on 3 chars every day. Plus a lot of the gear is nice(like the +hit for offspec trinket from Sapphiron, Mace from KT is good until Uld25) and my guild is NOT gonna let me run Priest in TotC and we don't do Uld so... it's all up to PuGs. Hopefully I get some fun Naxx/OS runs!
#7 Oct 04 2009 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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teacake wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I doubt my guild would let me heal Uld25 hardmodes in blue gear :(


You raidy types are galley slaves. Smiley: tongue I could not miss raiding less. Wait a second. There. I missed it a little less.

I love reading all y'all's stories about it though. :)
Ulduar/ToC is good fun though.
And if I didn't gear up my priest what did I spend all that time leveling her up for?

Priests aren't exactly the most fun class to solo with.
#8 Oct 05 2009 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
shadow is amazing to solo with, esp if you grind those fire guys near the hodir place

I can get my dot up and pretty much go forever

Shadow is prety fun all around.


Grats on 80 though, I've just started my task of re-gearing and its been sort of fun


Once you get comfortable with your mana go with the spellpower cloak enchant
#9 Oct 05 2009 at 8:57 AM Rating: Good
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Smoopie wrote:
Once you get comfortable with your mana go with the spellpower cloak enchant
I won't do that, and I wouldn't advice anyone else to do it either.
Spellpower procs (or haste, crit or any other proc that doesn't return mana) as a healer are kind of pointless as they're too unreliable.
I'd much rather trade Mp5 for spellpower somewhere else.
#10 Oct 05 2009 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
As disc you are pretty much always casting some, higher spellpower means bigger shields and stronger heals

I haven't had to use a mana potion in a long long time

Mp5 is pretty much the worst stat you can get as a priest
#11 Oct 05 2009 at 10:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Smoopie wrote:
Mp5 is pretty much the worst stat you can get as a priest


Really? So you'd take, say, a Strength enchant first? Smiley: wink

No, but seriously. No. Certainly in the days of BC, when Shat was full, Drakes were Nether and Spirit was useful, as a priest you always, always, always took Spirit over MP5. Then they changed how Spirit functions and regen overall. Now it's out with that dusty old rule. As Holy, Spiritual Guidance still gives you good reason give Spirit more weight. But as Disc, nuh-uh. The guys who do the math say that 1 MP5 is worth 3 Spirit. I'll take a Royal Twilight Opal with 4 MP5 over its Purified counterpart with 8 SPI any day of the week with a side of fries.
#12 Oct 05 2009 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Smoopie wrote:
As disc you are pretty much always casting some, higher spellpower means bigger shields and stronger heals
Same thing goes, the proc is not reliable and you won't always get it when you need it.
The chance of the spellpower proc being wasted is large.
The mana proc is never wasted as for it to proc you need to cast, if you cast you used more than 400 mana.

That leads to the simple conclusion that you don't make use of the spellpower proc most of the time, which makes it a waste of an enchant in my eyes.

And, as I said, you can pick consistent spellpower over Mp5 in many other places.
#13 Oct 05 2009 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
It's preference thing but the SP boost is widely preferred and considered better for Disc. The proc rate is VERY high. Mana is nice but if you OOM as Disc either you or the tank should figure out the failing and adjust. As a 2050GS I just healed two tanks through Ony10 and earlier VoA10. Neither time did I even remember I had Fiend, nor did I dip under 80% mana.
Neither were geared enough to carry me.
#14 Oct 06 2009 at 8:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Keep getting those shinies! gogogogogogo

I still adhere to the general rule that I like my efficiency on proc and my throughput on demand, when possible. Mp5 still has a spot in my gear atm. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but even as disc I can feel the pinch from time to time.

BTW, what is 2050GS? Is it some sort of Guardian Spirit Build for shields?

*edit nvm- I was trying to figure out how you could get Soul Warding and Guardian Spirit in the same build when it dawned on me... GS is for Gear Score, not Guardian Spirit, doh!

Edited, Oct 6th 2009 1:02pm by Trylofer
#15 Oct 07 2009 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
His Excellency Aethien Scholar wrote:


The chance of the spellpower proc being wasted is large.


wait..wat?

If you're casting 90% of a fight how is spellpower proc wasted? It's a prretty clear HSP boost

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The mana proc is never wasted as for it to proc you need to cast, if you cast you used more than 400 mana.


Well true, I find rapture/fiend/hymn is all the mana regen I ever need

I never went with the mp5 enchant so maybe I dont know what i'm missing but from ulduar to toc the only times I'm stressed for mana is when we have a slacker healer in the group or if we bring 6 healers to regular modes

Maybe on paper xxx mana per fight sounds good, but honestly even without replentish in the raid its hard for disc to oom.


Though there is no right or wrong way for priests to gem/enchant as long as it works for them and their raid groups
#16 Oct 07 2009 at 8:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess if I was a tailor, I would have an opinion on the cloak embroidery selection...

Ah, what the hell! =D

It does come down to what you feel is needed in your gear for that encounter. It is easy (although costly from a non-tailor POV, tailors may see a specialty cloth as cheap) to change if desired. Then again, as an alchemist, I will change flask/elixir combos whenever I want without regards to cost.

In the hierarchy of how I build a toon, I use something like this from hardest to easiest to situationally change:

-Spec
-Gear Kits (easy to change, but rarely built on the spot)
-Enchants
-Gems
-Glyphs
-Trinkets (might be considered in gear kits, but I use trinkets like mood rings)
-Flasks/Elixirs
-Pot selection (normally reserved for Mad Alch Pot, but Haste or SP/Crit pots can be beneficial, too.)

As far as procs for throughput being wasted... I don't know. I do track my procs through Powerauras so I know when they are up, and I get a bit disappointed when they proc during prepping a tank before a pull. I feel that the procs actually reduce my efficiency a bit due to me wanting to cast more for the duration, even if it is not needed. But rarely is efficiency an issue; I am more inclined to make a build that will heal 10% longer than expected than 10% more than expected.
#17 Oct 07 2009 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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Smoopie wrote:
If you're casting 90% of a fight how is spellpower proc wasted? It's a prretty clear HSP boost
You only really need all the spellpower you can get during phases where the tank takes heavy damage.
Other than that, it's pretty likely that the extra healing just ends up as (more) overhealing.

Since it has a 30% uptime (roughly) there's a 70% chance of it not being up when you need it.
And as I said, I know the cloak enchant gives me roughly 31 Mp5 and I keep that in mind when gearing.



I'm also very strongly against random procs as a healer, I just really really don't like them.
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