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Best way to go in my opinion is gear up to Ulduar while spamming through heroics, and raid from there. But you probably won't be able to do that with a Titansteel Destroyer, so again, work on that Edge of Ruin as your pre-raid weapon.
Titansteel Destroyer is fine for heroics, until the Edge of Ruin drops (and you actually win the damn thing) from H-ToC.
Sorry, that was a missunderstanding caused by a poor choice of words. What I meant was "you probably shouldn't do
Ulduar with Titansteel", not heroics. My bad, sorry about it. So what I was suggesting is to do the heroics with Titansteel or the Tournament great swords until Edge of Ruin. This way you'd be gearing up through heroics to skip all raids prior to Ulduar, and
at some point during that journey, you would get Edge of Ruin. Additionally, I meant that for that porpose alone (so excluding the lower level raids), Titansteel become much more expensive, because you'd be replacing it very early.
My main point is that:
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1). The Edge of Ruin might take a week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks to get. You have to not only get an H-ToC group that doesn't mind someone who is just gearing up, and, the thing has to drop, AND you have to win the roll on it. Just getting it to drop can take several days if you are unlucky with rolls.
Yeah, it's a major pain to get it to drop. But another way to look at it, is that you have several tries on it between you Naxx runs, and you have less people to compete with. I don't think there's any mistake in saying that this weapon is your best, safest and easiest bet for a 1st pre-Ulduar weapon.
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And please, for the Love of God, don't use the spear. Paladins need +Strength, and the spear has none. Let the hunters and druids use it.
While I agree with this, I have no clue of the drop rate on either on them. What I've seen when I was doing H.ToC was that the spear droped quite more often then the Axe. Since I don't have a large sample to drop an statistical argument here, I'll just call it "lack of luck". The spear seems a step up from both Titansteel and the Tournament great swords, so assuming you don't have a hunter or druid interested on them, I don't think it could hurt to snag that and put some lower rated enchants. Basically, it took me 2 weeks to get my Axe, without even trying (I wasn't even thinking about gearing Ret at that time). During that time I saw 1 Axe (mine) and 4(?) Spears. While this is not enough to conclude anything about their drop rate, it does bring up some doubts.
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2). Some people want to save champion's seals for something else. My warrior, in fact, is a member of this group. I am saving all of his champion's seals for when he gets his Crusader title, so that he can buy the last few BoAs I need to level my alts. I figure he will have *just enough* Champion's Seals to get them all when he gets Crusader. If I buy the sword that's *worse* than the Destroyer, I will have added another 3-5 days on to the time it takes to get said BoAs. I can get 1200g a hell of a lot quicker than 5 days. So, I chose the 1200g weapon that has superior stats. Given my luck with H-ToC, I will likely be using this weapon for quite awhile.
That's a good argument. Personally, I wouldn't do it for nothing in this world, simply because I value the money better ;) but yeah, I understand.
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then how in God's name are you able to rip through Ulduar in even less time?
I think it's safe to assume he's comparing
Naxx Pugs x
Uld guild run. If so, it's perfectly understandable, because with Blizzard allowing us to gear through heroics and the inclusion of new fairly easy raids with high-end drops, most guilds don't do anything prior to Ulduar. In turns, if this is what he means, It's been discussed (and I think fairly accepted) that excellent players / characters when joining a PuG get instant and not-removable retardment debuff.
