For those DK's wondering...a subject on Frost DPSFollow

This is what I've been working towards. Atm I the Mace from ToC seals. Day or 2 more and I should have enough to get another one.



i <3 it too.

The only thing that I goof up on is CG's trigger and Rime sound the same. So I'll hear the woosh sound and hit HB.
Usually ending up with me wasting Runes :X

^-^ thanks.

I still need to change some Gems. Had to make some gold :3 Live and Learn lol.


Instead of making a new thread I'll just post this in here.

What are 2 1h I should stride to get?

I replaced that main. I know use 2 Maces from Argent.
I'm Exalted with EB, I could go get 2 of them swords.
Or should I pick up 2 Terror Tankards (cheapest was 1,450g atm on my realm. Price will either go up or down soon)?
Mix/match?

I try to run HToC once a day, to get Eadric's mace...yesterday he decided to Drop the 2h axe -.-



Edited, Oct 12th 2009 10:27am by Sandinmygum

Which Presence do you use in this spec? Blood or Unholy?

I've forgotten to change back to Blood Presence inside instances. Would wonder why my abilities were CD, but could not smash them, and realize I was in Unholy.
DPS would be lower than normal.

I stay in Blood as well.

Spell penetration is primarily a PvP stat, because in PvP almost everyone has some sort of spell resistance from Mark of the Wild or Paladins' auras, but I've noticed that some of the mobs in Utgarde and Nexus have frost resistance as well.

Granted, spell penetration is a minor help, but if you want to get the socket bonus it's definitely an option. In any case, it's better than +24 stamina if you're not tanking. One might consider going for pure +strength if you don't care about the socket bonus, though.

Hi

First post on the forum, i'd like to say that on my DW DK frost DPS that i dropped a few talents, like blood caked strikes and unbreakable armor from this build and made it into a 5/51/15 build.

I also took butchery instead of Chill of the Grave for my RP generation because i raid onyxia alot, i've found that butchery when fighting the whelps in particular that the moment the aoe kills them i got a full RP bar. Which is great for when i go from the first wave of whelps to the elite add because the moment i get there i spam froststrike and he alrdy lost 10% health.

Edit: Spelling error

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 7:02am by killsinheels

The One and Only ArexLovesPie i have doubt that Strong Fishing Pole is the best weapon you can show. :P

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 7:04am by killsinheels

here is my build

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 7:49am by killsinheels

Thanks for the info my main spec is blood tank with no talents for rp gen (still has no problems with rp though) right now my dps gear cosists of T9 gloves, Ring of Ghoulish delight (hallow ring) and Chromian Coaster

Edit: Spell Check

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 12:05pm by killsinheels

i adjusted my build now and got ToC and ToC hc gear on my dps build and now no tank with less than ulduar gear can hold aggro vs me all because (i'm guessing here) i dropped subversion (i never seen a dk dps last 1 fight w/o dying if they dont got subversion)

Hopefully I wont derail the post because there is a lot of good info here.

I am currently sitting at: My DK's armory.

I am wanting to respecc to Frost and I am seriously considering DW Frost.

I mostly solo, but I have been finding myself in situations recently that I would like to either dish out more DPS, or have the ability to OT (or tank) if I am needed to.

I have looked around a little bit at EJ, but I would rather ask here because I know i wont get a link to a spreadsheet or theorycrafts.

My questions...

What is the normal spec (point-wise) for a DWing Frost DK? (I have no clue since I have only played Unholy) It seems to be 0/53/18.

What would be the spec for a Frost DK wanting/needing to tank? (in case I actually purchase dual spec)

I currently use FaceSmasher... I know it is a crutch, but even using it I can only hit 1600-1900dps... is there other addons I need when I spec into Frost? (I saw Event Alert in this thread)

What glyphs are best suited for DW Frost DKs, and which are best for Frost tanks? Seems that the Glyphs should be Frost Strike, Obliterate, and either Icy Touch or Howling Blast.

Other than having a perma-ghoul and a mounted speed increase... is there any other reason to even have an Unholy DK?

Looking at my Armory link... Do you see anything I just need to replace if I did switch to Frost (other than the weapon for two weapons), and what stats are important as a Frost DW DK? (edited: I just bought two Tankards of Terror to DW, and you think it would be fine to use the Titansteel Destroyer as my tanking weapon for now?)

When you are DWing as a Frost spec... do you use Blood Presence or Frost? Blood.

As a DWing Frost DK... what rune (or enchant) do you put on your weapons... What about as a Frost tank? (edited in: Fallen Crusader on main, and either Cinderglacier or Razorice on offhand... but which and why? Also, Frost tank = Stoneskin Gargoyle, right?)

I have noticed over at EJ that their 'guide' says to use the Sigil of Awareness. Is that OK or should I try to save my conquest/valor emblems for something else? What Sigil should I use?

I have a few more questions, but they slipped my mind at the moment.

Thanks for the comments, information, and/or the name calling.




edit: thought of another question.



Edited, Oct 31st 2009 8:53am by PentUpAnger

STR > Stam stat wise.
You don't need "more" HP when dishing out the DPS. If you are pulling hate, slow down or make sure our tank can actually tank...

hit rating needs to be 8%.

I think you got your answer on what RF to use on weapons in your other thread.

Unholy DK is great at AoE DPS. I dual spec Unholy, but hardly ever use it now.

I don't use Face Smasher, but use the Event one..due to CG and Rime sounding the same to me when they proc, so I like to know what one is up so I don't waste Runes.
Learn the rotation, it really isn't that hard :p
HoW.. IT>PS>OB>FS FS(if able) or OB (if able)>HS>Hs> FS/OB>FS/OB Start over when IT & PS drop. Use Rime when it Procs, best to use with Killing Machine up.

I've never DK tanked so I'm no good on that subject.

"Rime" is a free Howling Blast.
But it will only Proc when using OB.

I use Event Alert and the cool downs are shown right in the middle of my screen, can't miss them.
So if KM procs I try not to us an IT or FS and wait to see if Rime goes off (using OB).
If it get close, I may drop IT (if it needs to be reapplied) or FS. I only wait a few sec to see if this goes off, usually they both proc at or near the same time.

If Rime procs and no KM yet, I wait again to see if KM goes off (Rime's cool down is like 11sec I think). If not by 2sec, I use HB.

I only use FS as my RP Dump.

And to tell the truth I don't know if it is HS or BS on my hot keys, I use one of them to just build RP when I need some for FS spam.

As for using dummies. I guess they are ok to get an idea on what your DPS is. I usually go find a level 80 mob and hit it.

This.

Or you can do like I do and just /facedesk and roll back and forth. If you've got some decent gear you'll do around 3k DPS or so.



Well, it's most likely not Heart Strike, considering it's a Blood talent.

You want to use Blood Strike whenever your blood runes are up, because you want them death runes for 3x Oblit spam in the second rotation.