Combustion(and other patch day changes discussed)Follow

So, yeah.


I added the part about other talents so we could discuss it all in one thread.

Haven't done numbers on Arcane yet, still playing around with FFB.

Beat me to the punch today Pold.

With the new arcane rotation (that's right, it's still pretty much a rotation) of ABx4 AM it brings it about even (and in some cases a % or 2 ahead) of fire. FFB is a couple % below fire and arcane, and frost still brings up the rear.

Combustion is worth speccing back into now (for those who were out of the loop, it was pretty much a wasted talent before this patch and after 3.0). So I think I will be venturing back into arcane and fireball as my two specs again, although unfortunately I am so overburdened with hit gear it won't be pretty (At 419 hit in gear alone).

I've been overcapped on hit forever too >.<

Seems every upgrade I come across *also* has abunch of unneeded hit on it.

On one hand, the changes to arcane that make it tied or slightly better than fire make me happy as I really enjoy arcane, but on the other hand it makes me sad because I just spent 1k gold a week ago so I could dual spec fire. I guess I could always dual spec frost for a pvp spec since I'm on a pvp server and stay in frost whenever I'm out doing dailies.

According to talk going around, and my own math from what I've seen from pre patch to post patch, Frost received a ninja buff as well.

Apparantly, a glyphed frostbolt previously kept the 3% damage tax for being a snare. Post patch, this tax has been changed to a small % of crit chance (possible for all snare attacks?).

This basically means that every frostbolt is (tentatively) 3% more powerful, and crits less.

Frost isn't a big deal to anyone but me (since I'm a moron that likes to go against the mold ^_^), but it gives me hope that more help is coming. With enough haste, 3% per frostbolt (mine run at around 1.9 seconds, under self haste buffs it's around 1.6, under self haste + heroism 1.2) turns out to be a lot of extra damage (3% damage boost every two seconds, so 1.5% DPS boost at my current haste level) which scales with gear.

Other than that, looks like Arcane is back in the game, but even more boring.

For my fire spec, do y'all think it's worth speccing back into Combustion now that it does something?

How can you say arcane is more boring? I wouldn't say it's less boring by any means, but they did add an extra AB into the ideal rotation, and MB procs every cycle now. How is that *more* boring?

I'd like to say I think you are using that k wrong since that would imply you did over 1.2 million more DPS then anyone else. Hell even if you were talking about damage done that would be a rather significant portion since even in 25 man she only has 24 million HP.

So I would think you mean you did 1.2k more then anyone else quite a feat but not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

LB ticks cannot proc hotstreak.

Aye, that's what I mean - combustion stacking up should've given me hot streak procs from fireballs/the LB explosion, and wasn't.

/shrug. Could well have been my imagination, or I was missing something.

Haven't yet had a chance to play with arcane, looking forward to that tonight!

Not sure if the Combustion-upgrade works proper. It is suppose to give 50%!! extra damage when it Crits.

So I was hoping to make a Crithit of say 18k (12k + 50% extra (6k)) but did not see any of that :(