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#1 Sep 16 2009 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
A lot of places I read glyph of living bomb is a must have to increase dps. It is the best glyph. But question.

When it crits it doesn't count in the proccing hot streak. So say it crits and then my ffb crits. I don't get free pyroblast.

So wouldn't this mean that I have to get three crits in a row for pryoblast instead of 2. And the odds of that are a lot less.

So living bomb tic crits(1). Then my ffb crits(2),no pyroblast. Then ffb crits again(3). And then finally I get instant pyroblast. Sorry I thought this would help explain it.
#2 Sep 16 2009 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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whymply wrote:
A lot of places I read glyph of living bomb is a must have to increase dps. It is the best glyph. But question.

When it crits it doesn't count in the proccing hot streak. So say it crits and then my ffb crits. I don't get free pyroblast.

So wouldn't this mean that I have to get three crits in a row for pryoblast instead of 2. And the odds of that are a lot less.

So living bomb tic crits(1). Then my ffb crits(2),no pyroblast. Then ffb crits again(3). And then finally I get instant pyroblast. Sorry I thought this would help explain it.


Hot streak is completely unaffected by living bomb as such nothing you do to living bomb can decrease the chances of getting the instant pyroblast. So you still need 2 crits in a row to proc it and you don't have to worry about what living bomb does.

So to illustrate you simply take living bomb out of the equation. Ffb crit, living bomb crit, ffb crit is indistinguishable from ffb crit, living bomb non-crit, ffb crit which is the same as ffb crit ffb crit.
#3 Sep 16 2009 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
I think I explained my question wrong. Let me try again (math horrible, I haven't taken statistics yet). So please try to be understanding.

So say I have a 50% crit rate. So I crit with my ffb. Now wouldn't the odds of me scoring 2 crits in a row be 25% (i know for sure its lower than 50%). That is the living bomb crit. I know that doesn't count towards hot streak. But it took up my 25% crit chance.

So wouldn't the odds of getting the thrid crit be lower than 25% (Let's just say 15%).

So instead of having a 25% chance of hot streak proc, wouldn't it be 15%.

This may be easier. When my living bomb crits. Does it take away my opportunity to get a crit with my ffb.

Or does each spell have its own crit table. So my pyroblast have a 50% chance to crit. My ffb has a 50% chance to crit. My scorch has a 50% to crit.

Or do all my spells put together have a 50% to crit. Or is that not how it works at all.
#4 Sep 16 2009 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
Each shot has its own chance/roll the rolls are independant of each other.
#5 Sep 16 2009 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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Contrary to popular belief, if you flip a penny and get "heads" 8 times in a row, the odds of you getting "heads" again the 9th time is still 50%.
#6 Sep 17 2009 at 10:50 PM Rating: Default
But the chances that you would flip a penny and get "heads" 9 times in a row is math_formula equals far less then 50%
#7 Sep 17 2009 at 11:45 PM Rating: Good
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kreaper wrote:
But the chances that you would flip a penny and get "heads" 9 times in a row is math_formula equals far less then 50%


While this is true it doesn't apply to the problem at hand. He isn't trying to get 3 crits in a row. What he is trying to do is get two crits in a row with a meaningless other spell. So in essence say we have three coins and we flip them all he wants 1 of 2 results hth or hhh. Now while each of those 2 have a 1 in 8 chance of occuring combined there is a 1/4 chance of it happening. In closing the living bomb glyph has no affect on the outcome.
#8 Sep 18 2009 at 1:33 AM Rating: Decent
I just taught it was a really bad example.
While reading it, it almost implied the opposite of what I was saying.

The popular belief is correct, this was some wicked interpretation of the statistical facts?
#9 Sep 18 2009 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
Their example was actually sound. If you are not sitting there, coin-in-hand, saying that you are going to try to flip a coin 9 times in a row on heads, the odds are (as you said) far less than 50%. But if they are checking odds of each side after every flip, the % is always 50%. So you flipped it 8x, got heads 8x in a row. The odds, after that 8th flip of it being heads on the 9th is, and always will be (ceteris paribus) 50%.

Edited, Sep 18th 2009 8:10am by Anobix
#10 Sep 22 2009 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
Yes but he made it sound like the popular belief that getting "heads 9 times in a row is less then 50%" was wrong which it is not.
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