going disc, looking for a couple pointersFollow

Awwww.

The druid boards are great indeed. a.) very active and b.) not mean like those nasty rogueses.

I'll be back over there as soon as that troll druid comes about. :)

But I suspect my priest will just always be my main. When you find your class, you find your class.

Hey wait a second, I just saw this. You're PVP specced. My position is that Imp Renew is not worth the points for a Disc priest in PVP. You're better off with more points in Holy Spec.

Math for peeps who don't believe me (source linked below):


This is assuming a priest in PVP gear with:


And my PVP gear is worse than his, which makes it even less useful. :) Furthermore, speaking for myself, I don't even use Renew as much as one might think, since I shield instead and both can often be overkill, especially assuming you have shield glyphed. My basic style in PVP is shield and forget 'em, Penance for the ones getting truly whacked, throw out flash heal as needed when Penance is on cooldown, and spend the rest of your time dispelling and on offense. And even using Renew here and there (for people who still have weakened soul), I still don't think this talent is worth 3 points when I can get more tasty Divine Aegis procs instead.

The quotes are from a recent thread in Arena Junkies, a nice discussion of various talents and their use in Disc PVP specs. Some of the info needs to be customized for folks like me who play mainly BG's since the playstyle is different from those who focus on arena, but the basics are still good.

Also look at the specs on rated Disc priests, you'll notice almost none are taking Imp Renew. Or Imp Mana Burn for that matter (which I personally also think is trash).

(edited to add: I'm not meaning to sound all bossy here; I hope it goes without saying that I'm speaking only for myself. I'm not trying to give advice, I just always enjoy talent discussions.)

Edited, Sep 13th 2009 9:02am by teacake

Anyone STILL getting called out on "low heals" in pugs???

I mean really...its been how long since 3.1 came into the game and people still don't understand

I played a spriest in tbc and dps wasn't as bad as it is today but still not #1 and we had to put up with it then

Why does every non holy priest get #!T%!# with?

/rage!

I've pretty much bitter about it at this point and just say "3.1 called, they want you to learn how the priest class works" or something just as juvenile..

I use to link renewed hope,divine aegis,pw:s etc and tell them to read what those do and get back to me


What's worse is when a resto druid tells you to spec holy because its a better spec and will give them a run for their money

I really need to find a guild...=P

As far as guessabsorbs go it gives credit for 100% all the time which is grossly inaccurate imo

edit: I always PI a shadowpriest if there is one (useally isn't one) prob the worst option but gota show some love to my fav spec even if its the lowest dps in the game.

and then I have a mage whisp me when he is going to use mirror images, half the time I just throw it up on whatever ranged is near me if a lot is going on or if i am in lazy mode.

Edited, Sep 25th 2009 1:59pm by Smoopie

Isn't that what I said?





I could agree in ulduar most of them get consumed but in Toc if I have a free gcd and someone has taken damage I'll use my pw:s as a faster flash heal..they may not take any more damage from that point but it shows up in guessedabsorbs

I always keep myself shielded, I don't always take damage. I try to keep a shield on other healers, they don't always take the full shield damage.

With mana being almost being like energy on most fights blowing a few shields at 666 mana isn't going to hurt anything.

I guess it's just a matter of play style, but I always have time to throw a few shields around. I’ve done two runs with guessabsorb and wowmeteronline running a while back, just before 3.2 dropped, and I found a vast different—I wouldn’t trust that guessabsorb for anything.

10 mans too
25 mans i just keep the important people shielded or before I know some damage is going to hit a certain group

BK P3 is a *****, I just cheat and shield everyone right before the phase, then use Divine Hymn to keep everyone up.
I might need to shield and PoH after that again, but by then the boss should be down.


Your tank not being crit immune probably hurt a lot, and he likely didn't have high evasion either.

And some tanks just seem to take piles more damage than others, I have no idea how exactly that works but I had a prot paladin tanking ToC5 heroic for me and even though he had 41k hp his hp went down by half whenever I stopped looking at him for a second, forcing me to focus completely and only on him and almost ignore anyone else if I wanted to keep him up.
Needless to say, we wiped at BK the paladin threw a fit and left the group when I told him it was like he wasn't crit immune and had 0 avoidance.
We replaced him with an alt warrior tank from my guild with 32k hp and him I could simply shield+PoM and heal up other people.
(P3 was still a pain in the ***, but it'll always be so until I overgear it I'm afraid)

The same also goes for my guild, we have a couple really good tanks and one warrior tank who is always the one to get obliterated by gormok or two shotted by other bosses while that pretty much never happens to other tanks.
Why or how I honestly wouldn't know.

Edited, Sep 29th 2009 10:34am by Aethien

I think he just stacked stam and ignored avoidance, didn't use his abilities as well as he should have and more little things.


My gear is also pretty ****, so as Disc I kind of run out of time to keep everyone up if dps isn't quick with killing him in P3.

Ah well, 40 or so more emblems for T8.5 chest and 2pcT8.