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#1 Aug 30 2009 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
I've been out of WoW for a few months. When I left my DK was at 72 or 73. I plan on getting him to 80 asap.

However I don't remember my spec, as I toyed with all 3 before I left.

What is the DPs build most are using? I think I was Blood but I don't remember.

I play on PvE server, and when I was playing him I was trying to run as many instance as I could (for gear, and because I didn't do any on my Hunter).
I just need a good solid DPS build and maybe a rotation.

Thanks ^-^
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#2 Aug 30 2009 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
Blood is the new "spec to be".

3.2 made a significant amount of changes to the DK talent trees, and as far as DPS goes, blood will hit harder, maybe not faster, but it'll hit hard.

A real popular spec build right now is the 51/10/20 which can be found here:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVh0Icfkf0stZfzhhxc:ILGMmV

Good luck. =]

Edited, Aug 31st 2009 12:25am by Blackthornn
#3 Aug 31 2009 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I changed from unholy to blood with 3.2 and while my trash dps may be a bit lower (but not much) my boss dps is quite a bit higher which is what matters.
#4 Aug 31 2009 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Blood and unholy are still both popular and they still both work. Frost works but is barely used.
#5 Aug 31 2009 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
It depends on your gear and where you get it from. If you've got naxx gear, you really don't have any armor pen, and unholy is probably going to be your best bet, blood close behind. If you're in ulduar gear, you can stack arp (I got 51% passive and 100% on proc when I was fully stacked) and so blood has a big advantage. However, when you get to toc, stuff really doesn't have much arp anymore, and therefore unholy becomes a bit better.

Personally I'm unholy/obliterate, which means I'm unholy and can do fine with lower arp, but I can still take advantage of any arp I come across.
#6 Sep 01 2009 at 1:25 AM Rating: Good
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It depends on your gear and where you get it from. If you've got naxx gear, you really don't have any armor pen, and unholy is probably going to be your best bet, blood close behind.

I havent played for a while so I'm a bit out of the loop, but I thought Blood Gorged basically gave you enough ArP on its own?
#7 Sep 01 2009 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
enough arp? that's like saying enough strength! There is no such thing!
#8 Sep 01 2009 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Technically there is, if you have a trinket with an ARP proc and you're at 50% without the proc... =P
#9 Sep 01 2009 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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It's really all a matter of personal preference. I love Blood spec because it suits my playstyle more. I just can't seem to get into playing an Unholy spec. As for which is better, I think Blood outperforms Unholy in the end.
#10 Sep 02 2009 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
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A real popular spec build right now is the 51/10/20 which can be found here:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVh0Icfkf0stZfzhhxc:ILGMmV


You can't have a 51/10/20 build. Either has to be a 51/10/10, 51/20/0 or 51/0/20.

Maybe your 1 in the Frost portion was a typo :)
#11 Sep 02 2009 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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enough arp? that's like saying enough strength! There is no such thing!


Sorry I should've been clearer. I meant 'enough' as in you'll have enough ArP so that Blood will certainly be a viable alternative to Unholy even in similar gear.
#12 Sep 03 2009 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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I found ToC to give quite a lot of ArP... at least the 5-man one.
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#13 Sep 03 2009 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
So I went Blood, using that spec linked below my OP.

It seems slow. I do a rotation, and then am stuck waiting on cool downs. I remember, or maybe it was just in my hear, killing was much faster? Or so it seems.

Might have to give unholy another try and see how it feels to me.

Thanks for info peeps ^-^
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#14 Sep 04 2009 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
I'm using the 51/0/20 build as well, but instead of dark death I am using the disease glyph to refresh diseases with a single rune (and to have rolling diseases).

I find that the rotation works out pretty well, when you are waiting on cooldowns make sure you are dumping your RP be it by raising a ghoul, DRW, and of course DC.
#15 Sep 04 2009 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm in mostly PvP gear for my Death Knight, landing me a whoppin' 92 Hit Rating, bleh.

Anyway, pre-patch with the Unholy cookie cutter build (which was supposedly imba for beginner PvE DPS) I went and did a Violet Hold heroic. I don't remember having ever blushed in front of the computer, but at 1400 DPS, I sure did then.

With my new Blood build (and close to zero ArPen), I did 1900 DPS in ToC (5-man) and was top DPS of everyone in the group. Not that it means anything, because bottom DPS (healer not included) was another Death Knight who hit a solid 600 DPS.

I giggled.

Hoping to get a few more ToC runs in tonight for some sweet ArPen gear, then begin working on my tanking set.
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#16 Sep 04 2009 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
wow a DK had 600dps? Was that just auto-atack and randomly using IT/PS?

Granted my DK hit 80 on last Saturday and I went and got a few titansteel pieces (destroyer, helm, and boots) to help him out a bit and will have a DMC: G (Str) in a couple of days, but still...
#17 Sep 05 2009 at 12:37 AM Rating: Good
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Anobix the Brilliant wrote:
wow a DK had 600dps? Was that just auto-atack and randomly using IT/PS?

Granted my DK hit 80 on last Saturday and I went and got a few titansteel pieces (destroyer, helm, and boots) to help him out a bit and will have a DMC: G (Str) in a couple of days, but still...


That was basically him unleashing everything on everything. Complete chaos.

He was also the first Unholy Death Knight I've met without the Raise Dead glyph - and he forgot to restock reagents before the fight. I won't even mention the fight against Paltress where he continued to fight her after she summoned the add, or his first two deaths which were caused by him not mounting up during the first jousting. I wrote a quick walkthrough of the jousting in the party chat and after he died a second time, I told him to check party chat. He told me to chill, because it was his first time and then he proceeded to get himself killed by failing to mount again. So I told him, regardless of it was his first time or not, he should freakin' read the goddam party chat because he was showing fail skills of epic proportions.

Yes, interesting PUG run. I'll save the full story for the weekly Horribad PUG Stories thread in the Druid forum, though.

Edit: I ran a heroic TotC with a group where I was the only one who had ever done TotC before. After we had wiped 5-6 times on the jousting part because no one was focusing on the same target, we finally got them down and prepared to fight the three champions. We buffed up and the Warrior engaged the mobs. He apparently had no clue about AOE tanking, because he didn't grab aggro from the troll guy (the Hunter) and I was killed within ten seconds of fighting. Damn, I love PUGs.

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#18 Sep 05 2009 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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600 dps! Your kidding right? I have only been 80 for a few days and (with other recently turned 80's in guild) have been trying to run some heroics and 80 level dungeons and am hitting 1700. We are all woefully undergeared and inexperienced but trying with some success.
#19 Sep 06 2009 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
600? I think I could do more than that autoattack afking.... I did more dps than that at level 70
#20 Sep 06 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not kidding. I thought Recount was messed up because of the jousting part, so I reset it after we wiped the first time. His DPS was at about 600 for the three champions and then it fell to 200ish on the second boss, Paltress or whatever her name is. Most of it was because he was hitting her instead of the add, causing him to do damage to himself. Smiley: lol

Oh, the joy of running instances with numbnuts.
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#21 Sep 07 2009 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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wow...600dps is sad. I think I pull almost 1k with just auto-attacks haha. Also to the OP, which presence are you using? If you are using Unholy Presence to dps, then yeah, you will have a lot of time between rune cooldowns where you will be just auto-attacking. Blood takes a little time to build up speed in it's dps because it relies somewhat heavily on death runes. If I'm starting a fight fresh (no death runes or runic power) I have to wait a few seconds after the first half of my rotation before I gain momentum, after that first half of a rotation though, I usually only have ~2-3s tops of rune cooldown and that's usually filled with death coils or hysteria+drw.
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