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#27 Aug 31 2009 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
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#28 Aug 31 2009 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
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As I understand it, Druid and Pally both have easily rotatable cooldowns, so their tanking is more rhythmic; I'm not sure why anyone would have a hard time with DK, it's the same thing as a dps rotation except you're in Frost Presence and likely skipping RP dumps in favor of Rune Strikes when they come up (not counting osh*t buttons).

Warrior is extremely proactive mitigation and reactive threat; you have to watch for Revenge procs, keep up with Shield Block/Shield Slam, watch positioning for Shockwave, dump extra rage (but not too much!) into Heroic Strike, etc etc etc. I'd not be surprised in the least if someone went from any one of the other 3 tank classes into Warrior and had a little trouble with it. The only reason I haven't picked any of them up despite my love of tanking is the hassle of playing the crit-immunity game with the defense cap (So happy they're changing that in Cataclysm!).


thats pretty much it really. both paladins and druids have high-threat openers that bring the enemy to them (FFF and shield) whereas a warrior has charge and heroic throw. HT is nice, but nowhere near the damage AS does, or the threat FFF does. charge is a ticket to death, since in any raid boss situation the boss is immune to charge stun, meaning the warrior runs thru the boss and is likely now facing away from said boss. as raid tanks, we allll know what that means.

pally aoe tanking is plenty simple; consecrate every time its up. use HoR everytime its up. holy shield every time its up. declare how awesome of a tank you are for tanking the boss AND all those adds with your three buttons. druids are a bit harder to tank with compared to pallies, but not by much.

dks....dks are kinda funny. once they get going theyre pretty damn good at keeping threat, but early on threat gen is rather slow compared to a pally or a druid (or even a warrior on single target fights). once they get a nice amount of incoming RP however, theyre pretty beastly. aoe tanking is a bit tougher however, since the best way to generate threat is via lots of disease-powered blood boils, which means you'll get four off in quick succession in the opening round and then be reduced to two per rotation for some time. blood boil also doesnt hit for nearly enough without diseases on the target, making add pick-up rather sketchy in a multi-target situation. DnD using half of your six possible runes also makes it something of a sketchy moves depending on how your rotation has been going.

warriors....well....warrior tanking is a ***** sometimes. if we've got the rage and shockwave and Tclap are ready, we have a LOT of burst aoe threat; probably the highest in game. but once those are down, thats it. single target threat is pretty good tho, especially with the buffed devastate or as an arms/prot UA/revenge build (arguably the highest single target threat build in game, but it lacks in mitigation).

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The only reason I haven't picked any of them up despite my love of tanking is the hassle of playing the crit-immunity game with the defense cap (So happy they're changing that in Cataclysm!).


i have mixed feelings on this; on the one hand its going to make gearing for tank duty much less of a burden for non-druids. thats a big plus. on the other hand, off-spec wars and pallies will be screwed if they need/want to tank without respeccing. ive got two dps specs on my warrior; an arms/fury and a fury/arms build. if a feral is in the group, i go arms so we get blood frenzy and the feral has a mangle debuff. if theres no feral i go fury for rampage. however, its nice knowing that if we need a tank i can toss my tank gear on and at least be a passable add tank on current content, and MT bosses on older stuff (naxx, OS etc.). with the removal of defense-granted crit immunity, thats going to be a playstyle choice that fades.

which i guess means more room in my bags at the very least.
#29 Sep 01 2009 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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Quor, the Morbidity talent, Death & Decay glyph and a Frost build is all you really need to keep AOE aggro as a DK tank. Cycle targets while casting Howling Blast whenever it's ready and Death & Decay whenever it's off cooldown. I found AOE tanking to be a joke with Howling Blast and D&D spam. If people pull aggro through that, they seriously need a chill pill, because then they're doing something like 5,000 DPS in regular instances.

Which is.. you know.. a lot.
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#30 Sep 01 2009 at 3:42 AM Rating: Good
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oh, i know maz, but thats a very specific build to do something that paladins (and to a lesser extent, druids) do without really thinking about it so to speak. meanwhile DK's need a certain glyph and are limited to a single talent build in order to pull the same thing off. so, if say, youre a DK tank that doesnt have that talent build and glyph, then youre kinda screwed unless the dps is willing to give you a good ten seconds to get the threat ball rolling.

which isnt to say that all DK tank specs should have that kind of aoe threat natively. its more of a comment on the differences between pally/druid tanks and war/DK tanks.
#31 Sep 01 2009 at 3:58 AM Rating: Good
Not to mention AOE situations are rarely your make-or-break encounters, so spec/glyphing specifically for it is sometimes silly.
#32 Sep 01 2009 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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Less derailing, more talk about us being alcoholics!

I drink Keystone Light, it tastes like water but it ***** you up. Or I'll drink whiskey and coke.
#33 Sep 01 2009 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
I sometimes have a beer or two, but usually end up with a headache, so normally I stick with the scotch. 1-2 (very occaisionally 3) large glasses (3-4 shots in each) with coke is my usual. On the odd occasions I get up to 3, I get a bit quieter on vent, but it doesn't seem to affect my play too much Smiley: grin

If i've had wine with dinner, then another couple of wines afterwards (and sometimes a nice port) is pretty common.


Hmmm.....i'm sounding like an alcoholic. I'd like to point out that I only drink on average every 2nd or 3rd day! (usually Smiley: tongue )



#34 Sep 01 2009 at 3:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mmmm, port with a nice mild nicaraguan cigar.

Yes please!

For being 22 I'd like to think I'm quite cultured.
#35 Sep 01 2009 at 5:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I enjoy a nice port every now and again as well. Especially with a fine cigar after a nice meal.

Then of course switching over to 40ozs of Olde English and cheap cigarettes to finish of the evening.

Damn I'm classy.
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#36 Sep 01 2009 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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Michelada!
Or the good old JD.
Sometimes a Leffe too.
#37 Sep 01 2009 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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Malibu and coke is a nice girly drink which goes well with my pink NE kitty. Was doubly pleasant when levelling in Tanaris/STV. Like a beach holiday. Only more ganking.
#38 Sep 01 2009 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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1554 from the fat tire ale company is my drink of choice in most situations. finding it is a bit of a chore at times tho.

i do like a good hefeweizen as it goes well with almost any meal you can think of. a few shots of scotch or vodka are all ill deal with as far as the heavy stuff goes. im more of a beer conneissur than a hard liquor man; most of the stuff i drink involving hard liquor comes in the form of mixed drinks. margaritas and what not.
#40 Sep 02 2009 at 4:53 AM Rating: Good
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Mmm, hefeweizen...
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#41 Sep 02 2009 at 5:43 AM Rating: Good
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Funny story about the Fat Tire guys.

The actual brewery is called New Belgium Brewery and it's located in Fort Collins CO. Well, my brother just so happens to live in FoCo, as the locals call it, and also works in a pretty well established bar there as well.

He knows some of the brewers that work for New Belgium and says most of them are pretty big ********. My old man toured the brewery and they treated him like a ****.

So, I've stopped drinking New Belgium beer for a much better, much harder to find, Fort Collins Brewery beer.
#42 Sep 02 2009 at 5:46 AM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only ArexLovesPie wrote:
I drink Keystone Light, it tastes like water but it @#%^s you up. Or I'll drink whiskey and coke.


Keystone.....WTF? Thats fishing beer my friend(RL fishing). Bud light is my long time friend.

I always drink Kesler and coke....and my local store knows it, lol. Every now and again I'll go for a night of vodka-dews, but that usually ends badly since I drink it like water. And very rarely I'll use beer to fill my need to drink, but it annoys me since I have to make more trips unless I bring 2-3 down at a time....and by the time you're on the last one it's room temp and I want COLD beer dammit.



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#43 Sep 02 2009 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I used to be a wine and beer person whilst playing WoW but that has moved on to just beer (getting old I think).

The beer of choice these days...Samuel Adams. I have tried many of their brews and some of the seasonal ones are just heavenly. We have just entered the Octoberfest period. Much rejoicing has been going on.
#44 Sep 02 2009 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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Word.

I was just in Boston like 3 days ago and had a few, dozen, Sam's while I was in the area.

They are way tastier there then the ones I get back in the 808.
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#45 Sep 03 2009 at 1:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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I forgot to mention. But this is more of a PSA.

DONT DRINK SNAKE LIQUOR

SHIT WILL FUCK YOU UP

Drinking liquor with a cobra attacking a smaller snake or a scorpion is a bad idea.
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