Ret T7.5, how long?!Follow

Slightly off topic, but what's your rotation or FCFS priority list? I use both (I know, right?) being CS > Judgement > DS > CS > Consecrate > Exorcism > CS... basically what EJ has on their Retribution 3.2 thread. I'm doing poorly, though.

Also, 205 hit isn't capped. 263 hit, or 8%, is the melee cap.

Judgement damage on a single target will be 3rd or 4th. Seal of corruption will provide most damage, likely around 20% of total, closely followed by white damage. The rotation on a single target should be

(Hammer of Wrath) -> Crusader Strike -> Judgement -> etc

Basically use crusader strike every time it's available as top priority (since the attached seal of corruption damage is huge) and you'll be able to fit in two abilities before CSing again. CS, Judgement, Divine Storm, CS, Exorcism, Conscecrate, CS.... and so on.

I think you are maybe misreading your dps meter, because 9.4k dps sustained on xt-002 is completely unprecedented in all the wws reports i can find, from much much better geared rets.

To be honest I think your kit is pretty good and 5k DPS is not to be sniffed at.

Not sure I agree about the hit cap situation, have you checked to see how many of your swings are missed/glanced/parried or blocked?

Also with the rotation in mind, I sometimes hit judgement, purely for the range as I'm heading in.

Okay did a ToC10 clear and took screenshots of recount breakdowns.

4124.7 DPS overall, which isn't bad considering how terrible Champions are (no Divine Storm or Consecrate, lots of CC and running which makes SoV tick solo) and Anub being a new boss.

Here are the stats:

Total: 9923091
DPS: 4124.7
Time: 1778.76s

Melee

Damage: 2161449
Blocked: 866
Absorbed: 14927
Glancing: 150 / 22.8%
Hit: 243 / 36.9%
Crit: 214 / 32.5%
Miss: 6 / 0.9%
Dodge: 14 / 2.1%
Parry: 25 / 3.8%

Physical

Damage: 1590104
Blocked: 585
Absorbed: 9419
Hit: 292 / 68.9%
Crit: 132 / 31.1%

Holy

Damage: 6171538
Resisted: 297906
Absorbed: 56376
Hit: 843 / 59.5%
Crit: 574 / 40.5%

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Breakdown:

Melee: 658 / 2161449
Seal of Vengeance : 958 / 1606712
Judgement of Vengeance: 218 / 1353970
Holy Vengeance: 726 / 993208
Crusader Strike: 301 / 905238
Divine Storm: 157 / 684866
Exorcism: 107 / 684007
Righteous Vengeance: 644 / 656378

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Now that was in the gear listed above. My favorite moment was the Valkyr fight though, did 6102 DPS, only 1 miss.

Melee: 49 / 226260
Seal of Vengeance: 71 / 162736
Judgement of Vengeance: 16 / 140141
Holy Vengeance: 55 / 105649
Righteous Vengeance: 52 / 104042
Crusader Strike: 24 / 95279
Exorcism: 9 / 89354
Divine Storm: 13 / 64367

Overall was good experience. Best part is I'm wearing some upgrades now.

Got Conqueror's Aegis Battleplate, Armguards of the Nether Lord, Stylish Power Cape, and Turalyon's Gauntlets of Conquest.

Got a ton of Str, AP, and hit so now I am over cap(9.61% lol) and very set. :D Looking forward to doing more, but I would like to say that the above recount proves that as long as you are near hit cap, it is NOT the highest DPS increase everyone makes it out to be. I missed a total of 6 times in the newest dungeon while shy 60 hit rating or so.

So honestly, just aim for the gear that best gives you DPS and the hit will come along.

Yah I do 5-6k depending on the fight these days. Once we ramp up 5 stacks on a boss Ret is just nuckin futs I love it. I'm holding onto the 4 Piece t8-8.5 bonus right now. I have enough emblems to go two peice t9 but only for gloves which would cost me expertise and give me way to much hit. So I think I am going to save up for two peices of t9 legs and gloves at least before I swap out 4 peice. I am curious though if anyone has played with 2 peice t9 bonus much and looked at how much Righteous Veng is criting?

* Edit found the answer to my own question:

2 peice is still broken in the not good way for t9. It's not using our crit and is basing like looooww 2-4% instead of 34% like it should if you have 30% crit. It's fixed on the PTR apparently. So Ima stick with my 4 peice T8 for now until its patched.



Edited, Sep 4th 2009 10:50am by Shojindo

The 2 peice T9 proc is fixed now btw. I have officially decided it rocks and I love it. Really adds to our dots on movement fights where your off target for a bit etc.

It did get me in trouble on Icehowl 25 I think once. One of my guildies who don't f'ing pay attention got hit by charge, tank got gibbed and I was 2nd threat again... I lived through this oen though thank god for bubble.

I am seeing as high as 40-50% crit on Right Veng ticks now. :D

Nice, yeah I am am hitting between #1-3 damagedone/DPS in 25 mans these days even with my i219 weapon. Whining from "pure" DPS classes is sure to follow lol. We used to have a really good rogue that crushed me but he retired. One of our mages beats me on certain fights and we have a sick enhance shammy who has both i232 axes from ToC 10 that usually is neck and neck with me.

As soon as I get the Ax from Champs or Ony's new/old i245 sword it's going to be disgusting the DPS I do. I still kinda want Aesirs Edge but no one wants to run Uld much anymore as we are all kind of sick of it. I might try and get a crack high DPS team in there for XT 10 hard mode this weekend though if I can manage to stop playing my new rogue alt long enough.

I got my Blords plate boots really cheap becuase we used to save up 6 orbs in Uld before 3.2 and then roll on them and I won. And then a buddy of mine donated like 6 of the 10 titansteel bars.

Only melee auto attack swings and Hammer of the Righteous stack Vengeance so in that respect the order you use other abilities has no effect.

(and plz, don't necro post >.>)

EDIT: to make my post more clear/accurate.

Edited, Nov 19th 2009 10:23pm by Maulgak

I tested this on the dummy before posting, and neither CS nor DS were stacking the Vengeance DOT. They both trigger Vengeance when it is at a full stack, but neither were contributing to the stack itself.

Same thing happened later during VOA25: only my auto attack was stacking the DOT.

From the 3.2 patch notes:



Edited, Nov 19th 2009 10:19pm by Maulgak

this^

and, no i was under the impression that CS and DS stacked Seal of Vengeance, =/ my bad... (thanks though Hoyadin)