So... little background:
- I normally play as a Druid with focus on Bear, Hunter, or a Warlock
- I've played mages on FFXI for 5 years
- My highest mage ever for WoW is a depressingly low 7 on a PvE server
- The last time I played was shortly after Burning Crusades launched
Needless to say, it was retarted of me to select Mage when my wife wanted to create a character on the same server as my stepdaughter. Between the huge amount of changes since BC, and the learning curve I'm facing, I need all the help I can get.
My wife rolled as a Paladin Dwarf, and I'm a Gnome Mage. Being on a PvP server, conflict with the Horde is going to happen. My wife... well... I don't see her being good at PvP. She's a good player, but her reaction time is a bit slow, and the machine she plays on has seen better days. So, that leaves me to try to find a way to survive those fights that aren't overt ganking. So, I came here to learn a bit more about PvP as a Mage, and hit the massive wall of info at the top of the page. However...
I did read the thread, can't say as I absorbed all I'll need to really survive. Considering that I'm looking at survivalist-style build, I'll be walking the (so)chilly path of the frost mage. Again, I didn't see much about that aside from the obvious mentions of self-preservation.
Has anyone had much experience having to defend someone else as a frost mage? Should I bother with it or should I go for mad DPS instead to snipe our killers from range? Are there any other tips that aren't acronym-laden that people can give me in regards to not being a completely ***-backwards mage?
And as an aside, I didn't take 'lock for the billionth time because I tend to wind up wandering off and soloing as it instead of playing with her. I'm just very much used to pet soloing jobs.
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
The idea of old school is way more interesting than the reality
A mage defending others? Peel them off your wife with snares (and Deep Freeze). Thén nuke.
It's not as good as healing, but it logically seen seems the best thing you can do to me.
Edit: I forgot about the allmighty polymorph. It's similar to arena fights I guess - you need to regain control of the situation and get your partner out of in-game and real-life danger. Once that's done you can kill your opponent.
Edited, Aug 29th 2009 6:55am by Mozared
It's not as good as healing, but it logically seen seems the best thing you can do to me.
Edit: I forgot about the allmighty polymorph. It's similar to arena fights I guess - you need to regain control of the situation and get your partner out of in-game and real-life danger. Once that's done you can kill your opponent.
Edited, Aug 29th 2009 6:55am by Mozared
Mozared wrote:
A mage defending others? Peel them off your wife with snares (and Deep Freeze). Thén nuke.
It's not as good as healing, but it logically seen seems the best thing you can do to me.
Edit: I forgot about the allmighty polymorph. It's similar to arena fights I guess - you need to regain control of the situation and get your partner out of in-game and real-life danger. Once that's done you can kill your opponent.
Edited, Aug 29th 2009 6:55am by Mozared
It's not as good as healing, but it logically seen seems the best thing you can do to me.
Edit: I forgot about the allmighty polymorph. It's similar to arena fights I guess - you need to regain control of the situation and get your partner out of in-game and real-life danger. Once that's done you can kill your opponent.
Edited, Aug 29th 2009 6:55am by Mozared
Anyway...
I had forgotten about Polymorph, I just got that on my new little Mage.
The main reason I posted this was I knew I'd overlook stuff like this. I'm not extremely good at PvP, but my odds of pulling our bacon out of the fire is better than my wife's >.<
Thanks for the tips ^.^
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
The idea of old school is way more interesting than the reality
I'd say you're planning a bit too far ahead. Mage's tools are all fairly obvious. We don't have a real complex dps rotation or anything that you need memorize for pvp. As you level up you will unlock new spells, as will your partner, and it should become fairly obvious what your strategy will be.
In general though, frost mage is good at slowing movement speed. Regardless of whether you or your partner is being attacked, you just want to slow the other person(s) down as much as possible to create separation between you and them while you kill. Frost bolt, Cone of Cold, Ice lance, and Frost Nova are your main tools (with your elemental, counterspell, polymorph, and eventually deep freeze also coming into play heavily).
Knowing when to use your tools against a particular foe has more to do with understanding the mechanics of that class than your own. Each class has different escapes and CC which they can use against you and those are the things you need to learn about. Going into a fight blind to your opponent's next move is bad.
Also it should be noted that playing a mage in FFXI is nothing like playing a mage in WoW at all. Playing mage in WoW requires great mobility and knowledge of terrain and how you can exploit it, whereas mage in FFXI is point and click spamga.
In general though, frost mage is good at slowing movement speed. Regardless of whether you or your partner is being attacked, you just want to slow the other person(s) down as much as possible to create separation between you and them while you kill. Frost bolt, Cone of Cold, Ice lance, and Frost Nova are your main tools (with your elemental, counterspell, polymorph, and eventually deep freeze also coming into play heavily).
Knowing when to use your tools against a particular foe has more to do with understanding the mechanics of that class than your own. Each class has different escapes and CC which they can use against you and those are the things you need to learn about. Going into a fight blind to your opponent's next move is bad.
Also it should be noted that playing a mage in FFXI is nothing like playing a mage in WoW at all. Playing mage in WoW requires great mobility and knowledge of terrain and how you can exploit it, whereas mage in FFXI is point and click spamga.
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