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Hi fellow mages, I am just wandering what happened sice patch 3.2 with my crit-rate.

I am full FFS spec (and loving it!) and I got my talents build up like a FFS-mage should :)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Trollbane&cn=Nheo&gn=OAP

Now it seems like I got 3% less fire-crit since new patch. (?) I always had 9% bonus fire-crit cuz I have the talents: Critical Mess and Pyromaniac. When I checked my crit (for example 21%) I always was happy with the 9% extra fire-crit (so fire-crit would say 30%)

Maybe I see something wrong, but these day's I only get 6% extra fire-crit (I recon that would be the Critical Mass-talent)

Has something been changed, or is it just me smoking to much?

Can someone help me out here?

#2 Aug 25 2009 at 2:04 AM Rating: Good

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noalala wrote:

Hi fellow mages, I am just wandering what happened sice patch 3.2 with my crit-rate.

I am full FFS spec (and loving it!) and I got my talents build up like a FFS-mage should :)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Trollbane&cn=Nheo&gn=OAP

Now it seems like I got 3% less fire-crit since new patch. (?) I always had 9% bonus fire-crit cuz I have the talents: Critical Mess and Pyromaniac. When I checked my crit (for example 21%) I always was happy with the 9% extra fire-crit (so fire-crit would say 30%)

Maybe I see something wrong, but these day's I only get 6% extra fire-crit (I recon that would be the Critical Mass-talent)

Has something been changed, or is it just me smoking to much?

Can someone help me out here?

Not to nitpick but its FFB, I don't even know where the S would come from.

Drop Combustion, worthless. Drop Molten Shields, worthless. Put both points into Flame Throwing. Just because you use FFB as primary, your most important spells to be up 100% of time are Scorch and Living Bomb. Plus Fire Blast is invaluable in mobile fights(a huge chunk of raiding).

Also drop Blastwave. Knockback AoE is nothing but annoying in raiding/heroics. The point kinda floats but I recommend it in Imp Blizzard for AoE slow. Very useful in trash or bosses with adds.

As for the crit issue, I find myself having the same troubles. Feels like a ninja nerf though I doubt anything is wrong.

*edit!!*

Wow. Your other Fire spec I assume is PvP? If so, reset it. Fire is not a good PvP spec, Frost and Arcane are way to go. Frost = lasting long and Arena fights. Arcane = burst.

If not,

For PvE you are missing Living Bomb(massive DPS), don't have Burning Soul(massive), Flame Throwing(needed), Imp Scorch(a must), Pyromaniac, and 3 Burnout... I really don't know what that spec is. Drop Blast Wave, Conbustion, Dragon's Breath, Blazing Speed, Impact(you don't even have Incineration or Imp Fire Blast for that). In Arcane you want to drop everything beyond the first set aside Spell Impact, Focus Magic, and Torment of the Weak, then fill in Arcane Concentration and Student of the Mind.

Edited, Aug 25th 2009 6:10am by SarionBelmont

#3 Aug 25 2009 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent

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Cheers for comment, few reactions.

Yes, its FFB-spec (FFS = ForF*ckSake?) :D

I will do the suggestions u make on changing some talent points to gain the 6 yard extra distance.

Hate the fact I still got the feeling I miss 3% crit :(

Regarding to my Fire-Arcane PvP-spec, it's just a try out, trying all of them combinations lately to see what I like to use with PvP.... started playing PvP just recent tbh. Hate the low dmg on Frost and u must be pro to be real good with Frost (seen some awsome movies of Frostmages who singlehanded nuke/kite several opponents at once /drool), so deep-Arcane can be a good alternative I guess.

Edited, Aug 25th 2009 7:30am by noalala

#4 Aug 25 2009 at 3:55 AM Rating: Excellent

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noalala wrote:

Hi fellow mages, I am just wandering what happened sice patch 3.2 with my crit-rate.

I am full FFS spec (and loving it!) and I got my talents build up like a FFS-mage should :)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Trollbane&cn=Nheo&gn=OAP

Now it seems like I got 3% less fire-crit since new patch. (?) I always had 9% bonus fire-crit cuz I have the talents: Critical Mess and Pyromaniac. When I checked my crit (for example 21%) I always was happy with the 9% extra fire-crit (so fire-crit would say 30%)

Maybe I see something wrong, but these day's I only get 6% extra fire-crit (I recon that would be the Critical Mass-talent)

Has something been changed, or is it just me smoking to much?

Can someone help me out here?

You feel like you have 3% less crit or your stats are lower by 3% since the last patch? Do you have some combatlog parses/recount parses over multiple fights to see if your thoughts are correct? Heck, go stand infront of a target dummy (buffed) and cast a few hundred spells and see what your crit rate ends up being.

By the way, your gear looks great, except for being about 130 over the hit cap (which I see you picked up from the staff). I think that you are in a gear level to switch to fireball instead of frostfire as it is higher dps.

Edited, Aug 25th 2009 7:57am by Anobix

#5 Aug 25 2009 at 4:40 AM Rating: Decent

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Well, my FIRE-crit used to be +9% and now +6%, as a bonus on overal crit-rate.

Did not change anything in my talent-tree. So maybe they swapped the missing 3% FIRE-crit to the overall crit-rate, but I doubt that. I honestly got the feeling the took away these 3% extra fire-crit somehow, as I gained the lovely Eye of the Broodmother and still have less crit than before last patch.... /blame Blizzard

Good tip on the fire-spec with the hit I got, can you link me a good Fireball PvE spec?

#6 Aug 25 2009 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good

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Click Anobix's link in his sig. He is the guru of mage.

#7 Aug 25 2009 at 6:06 AM Rating: Excellent

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you can check out my armory or head to the greatest mage post ever, I have an entire thread devoted to the arcane/fireball spec.

I haven't heard anything crazy like that, that would have definitely been in the patch notes if they took away 3% crit from mages again.

Holy crap, you're right, at least checking out my armory I am sitting at 20.18% -> 26.18% missing the 3%, and it is definitely lower than usual. I'm gonna skim the oboards and see if I find anything. D'oh maintenance day .

Edited, Aug 25th 2009 10:08am by Anobix

#8 Aug 25 2009 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent

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Yay, Glad I met you Anobix, where were you all this time? :D
Haha, just signed up for this forum this morning, so I can only blame myself ^^

Please let me know what you can find out, cuz I don't get it.

#9 Aug 25 2009 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good

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I just posted on EJ, that is where I tend to get a lot of my info from there. I will keep you (and everyone else) posted on what is replied. Here is the thread I posted in:

http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t37364-frostfire_bolt_thread_updated_3_2_a/p55/#post1362941

it should apply for the fireball thread as well but I don't want to multi-post.

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Somebody responded on EJ.

Somebody wrote:

Pyromaniac was changed +3% for all spells according to the tooltip. You should notice that your overall displayed cirt% shot up 3% than what it was before, but your fire crit chance should be the same.

#11 Aug 25 2009 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent

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I've just read the forum of EJ, and they say it's been changed since patch 3.1 alrdy. That they swapped 3% crit over to overall crit in sted of Fire-crit...

Ok, I take it for granted, still got the feeling I am robbed :(

Cheers for all the effort peeps :)