Hi,
With the current gear, I do from 2k to 2.5k dps, however a Death Knight with almost the same gear does over 3k.
Can an experienced retadin tell me is my gear the problem or is it my rotation? It is:
(HoW)>Judge>CS>DS>Cons>Exorcism
the Armory link:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Srbpally
Thank you in advance.
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Your gear looks fine. Your spec is a little whacked. Try shooting for something closer to 5/11/55. With 5 points in seals of the pure.
What are you sealing? I use SoR on trash that dies fast, and switch to SoV/SoCorr on bosses. With 5 points in Seals of the pure you don't need Command.
SoV is the only way to roll on bosses its a huge DPS boost over any other seal on mobs that don't die in under 12 seconds.
Also 2k-3k is good dps if all your running is heroics. In 25 mans that should shoot up.
Are you popping wings whenever you can? Huge boost on trash packs. Huge boost on Sov when you have a nice boss to slay.
Also save your emblems up and get a new libram.
Good luck out there and don't sweat the DK's. :D
What are you sealing? I use SoR on trash that dies fast, and switch to SoV/SoCorr on bosses. With 5 points in Seals of the pure you don't need Command.
SoV is the only way to roll on bosses its a huge DPS boost over any other seal on mobs that don't die in under 12 seconds.
Also 2k-3k is good dps if all your running is heroics. In 25 mans that should shoot up.
Are you popping wings whenever you can? Huge boost on trash packs. Huge boost on Sov when you have a nice boss to slay.
Also save your emblems up and get a new libram.
Good luck out there and don't sweat the DK's. :D
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Thanks for the reply
I appreciate it. :)
I appreciate it. :)
cs should be at bottom and remember to use plea
morgorg wrote:
cs should be at bottom and remember to use plea
Definitely not. With update it may not be out highest damage spell but you should hit it every 4 seconds.
Conc -> Judgement -> Crusader Strike -> Divine Storm -> Exo(99% of the time it's proc'd off Art of War)
I repeat this until <25% when I hit Hammer of Wrath EVERY time its up, regardless where in rotation I am.
Follow what Master Shojindo said on seals and wings.
Don't forget Holy Wrath in undead packs.
On a long bossfight like patchwerk or something Vengeance is definately gonna be much better. But i noticed in heroics that we're killing bosses in literally 30-40 seconds if we do a geared guildy badge run. In that situation, it's better to just use righteousness i think.
My thinking is, you'll spend a third of the fight lagging on dps until SoV is fully stacked, then the boss is nearly dead so you don't get to break it in half for long with SoV. Wheras righteousness starts the pain right from the start (watch your aggro! Especially if you open with judgement).
edit: Clash resolution (or rotation if you like) is this on single targets:
(Hammer of Wrath) > Crusader Strike > Judgement > Divine Storm > Consecration > Exorcism > Holy Wrath
Open with Judgement if you're sealing Righteousness. Divine Storm and consecrate move up to 1st and 2nd priority depending on how many mobs are alive near you at that point in the "rotation".
fake edit: The Libram of Valiance is confirmed to have no internal cooldown, what the christ? I need to buy that.
Edited, Aug 14th 2009 6:44am by ArtemisEnteri
My thinking is, you'll spend a third of the fight lagging on dps until SoV is fully stacked, then the boss is nearly dead so you don't get to break it in half for long with SoV. Wheras righteousness starts the pain right from the start (watch your aggro! Especially if you open with judgement).
edit: Clash resolution (or rotation if you like) is this on single targets:
(Hammer of Wrath) > Crusader Strike > Judgement > Divine Storm > Consecration > Exorcism > Holy Wrath
Open with Judgement if you're sealing Righteousness. Divine Storm and consecrate move up to 1st and 2nd priority depending on how many mobs are alive near you at that point in the "rotation".
fake edit: The Libram of Valiance is confirmed to have no internal cooldown, what the christ? I need to buy that.
Edited, Aug 14th 2009 6:44am by ArtemisEnteri
Get yourself 'SHiT' I kid you not, it'll help you rotate better:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13011-SeriousHelpInTiming.html
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13011-SeriousHelpInTiming.html
Best addon name ever (i love that addon actually).
If the OP's been using command, that alone probably explains the bulk of the DPS difference.
BTW, the time it takes for vengeance to overtake rightousness in average DPS is estimated around 15-20s, so most heroics bosses benefit from vengeance. while the DPS probably isnt THAT different, SoV has the side benefit of continuing to tick on bosses that break from melee or have other odd phases. I did a drak run where tharon died in the second skeleton phase, due to having 2 uld25 geared ret pallys and one naxx25 geared prot tank all having 5 stacks of vengeance ticking during the annoying phases.
I'm finding i'm able to do pretty ridiculous DPS in 5 mans as ret naxx25/uld10 geared, 3k+, by using the spec, seals, and basic rotations referenced in this thread. If you want to get into mind blowing detail, the retribution thread on elitist jerks is generally kept up to date with the latest theorycrafting.
BTW, the time it takes for vengeance to overtake rightousness in average DPS is estimated around 15-20s, so most heroics bosses benefit from vengeance. while the DPS probably isnt THAT different, SoV has the side benefit of continuing to tick on bosses that break from melee or have other odd phases. I did a drak run where tharon died in the second skeleton phase, due to having 2 uld25 geared ret pallys and one naxx25 geared prot tank all having 5 stacks of vengeance ticking during the annoying phases.
I'm finding i'm able to do pretty ridiculous DPS in 5 mans as ret naxx25/uld10 geared, 3k+, by using the spec, seals, and basic rotations referenced in this thread. If you want to get into mind blowing detail, the retribution thread on elitist jerks is generally kept up to date with the latest theorycrafting.
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